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Subject: Re: [ubl] Minutes UBL TC Atlantic call
On 08/04/2004 11:03 AM, Anne Hendry wrote: > Hi Eduardo, > > Jon took an AI to put a finalized proposal to the list between now and > the Pacific call which would be a summary of your proposal with the > choice of the ndr option being the reduced description (the first ndr > option you mentioned). Mark will take an AI to update the rule(s) - > there are several sections this would impact. As i recall, what Jon > puts out should contain your examples as well, at least definitely for > the parts of the URN that we specify values for (specification-id, type, > sub-type, and document-id), and rfc 3121 will be noted as the definitive > source for the overal structure, as you proposed. We did discuss pretty > much all the aspects you mentioned in your suggestions. Many of the > currently implemented schema urns will change as a result. > > *** there was an unresolved question as to whether or not there is > really a need to specify the version for the specification-id, given > that there is a version for the document-id. Most on the call felt > not.. If you could provide your thoughts on this before (or during) the > Pacific call today that would be great. It depends -- I would agree that at face falue there is no need to specify whether document-id CoreComponentParameters1.0 is related to ubl1.0 or ubl2.0 so we should use simply ubl in specification-id. However, if these namespaces were to be used in the manner in which namespace names are being used almost uniformly in the industry, that is as pointers at a location where a user can retrieve the schema whose namespace name this is, then I believe it makes a lot of sense to specify whether we're talking ubl2.0 rather than ubl1.0, if nothing more than to facilitate the construction of catalogs for URN resolution. What can I do? I'm old fashioned, and I think that i's and t's should be dotted and crossed; but I'm also flexible, and if people believe it's not needed, so be it. > > -A > > Eduardo Gutentag wrote: > >> > Eduardo proposes either deleting the NDR rule or referencing >> > RFC 3121. >> > >> > In the Atlantic call we agreed the following: >> > >> > We agree to accept his proposal to reference RFC 3121, but we don't >> > agree to delete the rule in total. We need to change the URNs, we don't >> > need to change the filenames. At a minimum we need to say that we use >> > periods and not colons. >> >> My apologies for being unable to participate this morning. I hope this >> summary is an ultra summary rather than an accurate one, because I >> didn't just >> propose to reference RFC 3121; I thought I had a concrete example of how >> to construct URNs -- has that been discussed? Will the URNs be replaced >> with correct ones? Or has this been postponed further until the F2F? >> >> On 08/04/2004 10:08 AM, Mavis Cournane wrote: >> >>> Dear all >>> please find attached the minutes of today's call. >>> >>> Regards >>> Mavis >>> --------------------- >>> 1. Roll call and welcome by the moderator (Mavis) >>> >>> Mavis Cournane >>> Mike Grimley >>> Jon Bosak >>> Anne Hendry >>> Paul Thorpe >>> Michael Dill >>> Tony Coates >>> Mark Crawford >>> >>> >>> Text in {braces} refers to items in the work list at >>> >>> http://ibiblio.org/bosak/ubl/worklist.xls >>> >>> You should refer to the latest version of this file just before >>> the meeting begins. The reference format is >>> >>> {Sheet_Name:line_number} >>> >>> where "Sheet_Name" is "UBL10", "Teamwork", etc. >>> >>> ================================================================== >>> STANDING ITEMS >>> ================================================================== >>> >>> {Standing_Agenda:6} Calendar review >>> JG: Check with organizers of OTA conference >>> Deferred >>> >>> >>> (October in Chicago) >>> >>> {Liaisons:13} Ontolog forum >>> PY: Liaison status >>> Deferred >>> >>> ================================================================== >>> SUBCOMMITTEES AND WORK TEAMS >>> ================================================================== >>> >>> {Teamwork:3} HISC >>> {Teamwork:4} SSC >>> AH: Reported on SSC. There are a couple of open items. We only have 2 >>> changes to the namespaces. >>> JB: We will decide on the QA process in Copenhagen for 1.1. For 1.0 >>> we will all sit down and go through the whole list. >>> AH: there was something on UBL Dev that I sent out a question of that >>> we need an answer on. >>> ================================================================== >>> PRIORITY ITEMS FOR THIS MEETING >>> ================================================================== >>> >>> {UBL10:6} Issues review >>> TC: Continue review of remaining issues >>> >>> The only issues remaining are: >>> >>> a.3 Namespace URNs; see previous correspondence. >>> >>> Eduardo proposes either deleting the NDR rule or referencing >>> RFC 3121. >>> >>> In the Atlantic call we agreed the following: >>> >>> We agree to accept his proposal to reference RFC 3121, but we don't >>> agree to delete the rule in total. We need to change the URNs, we >>> don't need to change the filenames. At a minimum we need to say that >>> we use periods and not colons. >>> >>> Action: JB will write up a proposed rule and send it out to the list >>> for a vote. >>> a.4 Attribute names; see minutes of Pacific TC call 20040729. >>> >>> We propose to change the NDR rule >>> >>> ================================================================== >>> WORK LIST ADDITIONS >>> ================================================================== >>> >>> Addition of new items to the work list. >>> None, >>> ================================================================== >>> OTHER BUSINESS >>> ================================================================== >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster >>> of the OASIS TC), go to >>> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ubl/members/leave_workgroup.php. >>> >>> >> > > -- Eduardo Gutentag | e-mail: eduardo.gutentag@Sun.COM Web Technologies and Standards | Phone: +1 510 550 4616 x31442 Sun Microsystems Inc. | W3C AC Rep / OASIS BoD
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