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Subject: Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 1 June 2005
MINUTES OF ATLANTIC UBL TC MEETING 15H00 - 17H00 UTC WEDNESDAY 1 JUNE 2005 ATTENDANCE Peter Borresen Jon Bosak (chair) Marty Burns Mavis Cournane Stephen Green Anne Hendry Paul Thorpe Sylvia Webb STANDING ITEMS Additions to the calendar (http://ibiblio.org/bosak/ubl/calendar.htm) None. Liaison report: Tax XML TC SylviaW: Have just sent the list of additional elements requested by the Tax XML TC for UBL 2.0: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/200506/msg00002.html The TC members are going back to their organizations to determine whether they want to specify additional docs beyond 2.0 and if not, whether they want to participate in the development of docs submitted by others to ensure that any with tax info meet the requirements and best practices of the countries represented in the Tax XML TC. They also discussed how they might participate in UNeDocs; no decisions on either subject were made this meeting. Subcommittee report: SSC AnneH: No meeting last week due to a scheduling mixup; there will be one this week. Subcommittee report: SBSC StephenG: KenH has produced a package, will do another soon; StephenG needs to do some edits, then should be finished. Question: We're not currently including the schema location in the instances because we don't see a need to validate them; the instances here are metadata, not messages, and the schema is just provided for completeness. Any reason this would cause problems? AGREED that this is not a big deal. Anyone seriously interested in applying the schemas can just put in their location. Team report: Code Lists MartyB: Still waiting for input in response to issue summary sent by MartyB and TonyC 25 April. ACTION ITEMS DUE NEXT WEEK ACTION: MikkelB to check to see whether PeterB can fill the position of UBL liaison to TBG17 and report back on this 8 June. ADMINISTRIVIA: NDR EDITING AGREED that MavisC and MikeG will join MarkC as editors of the NDR document, with MarkC to be designated Lead Editor. All three editors will have access to the live document. NDR policy decisions will be made in NDR work sessions during TC meetings; the editing itself will be done by the editors meeting in ad hoc sessions arranged to suit their individual schedules. Two or more editors will be required at each editing session. The editable version of the doc will always be available to the editors, but will be checked out only for the editing sessions and returned along with a freshly generated PDF copy for general consumption immediately thereafter. REVIEW OF EUROPE/ASIA TC CALL AGREED that Sue Probert will be the UBL liaison to ASEAL (not "AFEAL" as recorded in the minutes of the Europe/Asia call]. See http://www.sitpro.org.uk/news/articles/snse200504c.html http://www.unece.org/cefact/cf_plenary/plenary05/cf_05_29e.pdf http://www.asemec-london.org/presentations/paperless/Paperless_d1_4.pdf AGREED that it's OK to continue the exploratory meetings with DTTN. AnneH: Input to ATG2 [#6 in the Europe/Asia minutes]? JonB: MarkC is our liaison to ATG. ACTION: Mavis to send input to MarkC. NDR WORK SESSION JonB: The NDR editors should tell us how to proceed from here. MavisC: At the TC meeting in McLean we resolved all the NDR issues outstanding at that time and implemented the changes in the NDR document. MikeG kept a tally of the changes, and KenS was given responsibility for capturing errata. At that point, we had a stable working draft. Since then we've added the following issues: local/global (global ID and Code); the architecture of Reusable; possible future changes resulting from UN/UBL alignment. We can probably still complete the NDR work by the end of June, which is when DavidK goes on vacation. MartyB: Remember Code Lists. MavisC: We need to understand the possible NDR impact of the Code List proposal. StephenG: Remember the minor versioning strategy. JonB: We didn't promise this for 2.0, just that we would put in place the change needed to make the definition of a minor versioning strategy possible. MartyB: Are substitution groups OK? JonB: That's what we're putting off right now. Resolution of this issue will affect our adoption of a code list strategy, but we can't have that discussion till MarkC gets back from vacation. SylviaW: But then there are other vacations (DavidK et al.) in July. AGREED that MikeG and MavisC will review the current Code List proposal, assess the impact of the proposal on the NDRs, distil out the strands that need input from MarkC, and suggest resolution of the remaining issues for TC approval as input to DavidK. AGREED that by the end of June we will resolve and implement all of the NDR changes not relating to code lists and will resolve all the noncontroversial code list issues, so that the only things remaining will be the issues needing MarkC's input. AGREED that MavisC will review the xml-dev thread regarding redefine as an alternative to substitution groups and then contact Henry Thompson for clarification (MartyB could not get Henry's suggestion to work). AGREED that MavisC will begin the next phase of NDR work by posting the latest NDR doc and outstanding issues for our information and comments. [From today's discussion it appears that the major NDR issues are: (1) changing all elements to global, (2) rearchitecting Reusable, (3) versioning, (4) code lists.] AGREED that some of the NDR work will take place during the Europe/Asia TC call as well as the Atlantic TC call and that MavisC will provide weekly notices of which subjects will be discussed during each meeting so that members can know in advance when items of interest will be on the agenda of each TC call. AnneH: Digital signatures? MavisC: In Hangzhou, it was agreed that ThomasL will discuss this with CrimsonLogic at the upcoming ebXML Asia Committee meeting in Hong Kong. AnneH: Customization? AGREED that we will pick up the discussion of customization methodology in the times currently reserved for NDR work sessions following resolution of the NDR issues. OTHER BUSINESS ACTION: JonB to send a reminder about leaves of absence. ACTION: JonB to generate a detailed timeline for UBL 2.0. StephenG: Proposal under discussion in OASIS to make URLs for OASIS specs case-insensitive. JonB: We hope that this ill-considered proposal will be opened for general discussion before it becomes policy. Jon
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