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Subject: Re: [ubl] draft proposal re un/cefact
I've some further questions, etc but I don't wish to detract at all from Kama's. I too have an interest in a plan that would allow extra documents to be added without breaking backwards compatibility - mainly for the sake of adopters who will need to maximise their return on investment in adopting UBL. How about e-government for example? I could long to see more documents of the UBL flavour of XML being added to cater for more and more e-Gov types of requirements so as to maximise any e-Gov return on investment where there has been adoption of UBL for e-procurement and transport. It would be so easy for the gov people (perhaps even myself included if I got the chance) to create new documents based on the UBL 1 or 2 library and naming and design rules. However I accept and welcome the vision presented to us to focus on CEFACT as the new direction and I'm not wanting to look back from that. So the answer seems to be that e-Gov documents can be designed along CEFACT lines instead, where convergence is sought over a timespan of say a few years rather than the perhaps overly optimistic timespan of a year or a couple of years. Maybe this fits well with e-Gov requirements to support both the UBL and the CEFACT approaches (which seems an e-Gov diplomatic kind of thing to do :-) So my own question is now: Accepting that TBG1 is the focus for procurement documents (have I got the right group?) where might be the focus for small business, subsetting and adoption-oriented development? Would it be for each TBG to consider individually? Does ATG or another group have a strong interest? I guess the challenge for Small Business SC interests would be to persuade and preach the message of the virtues of the small-business-to-small-business implementations being facilitated in CEFACT and I've no idea as yet how that would fit with existing philosophies so I'd appreciate pointers if any have them. I hope I don't have to play down ideas about small businesses trading with small businesses probably outside of a typically context-driven scenario. How does this seem to any present CEFACT folk in UBL? Perhaps me know off list if you'd prefer :-) CEFACT meets SBS - that's an exciting concept for me :-) I'd welcome any clarification too on how the ebXML work fits with this. Some of these sorts of matters had probably best be submitted sooner rather than later to a CEFACT list. Are there any list details of where we can join without having got a national representative OK? How do we get the latter? Am I jumping the gun? How many UBL-ers are there who already are members of CEFACT groups? And ebXML-ers? All the best Stephen Green On 18/04/06, Kama, Kamarudin Bin Tambi <kama@crimsonlogic.com> wrote: > Thanks Tim, my comments below, > > 1. The word "appropriate" seems a compromise. It does not send a clear > signal to the industry, which may lead to hesitatation, in terms of > adoption. Can we have it replaced with the word "the". > > 2. When we add more documents into either PSC or TSC, that does not > constitute major version, right? What then constitute major version? > > Rgds > Kama > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim McGrath [mailto:tmcgrath@portcomm.com.au] > Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 8:52 AM > To: Universal Business Language > Subject: [ubl] draft proposal re un/cefact > > *** > > Consistent with the Cooperation Agreement between OASIS > > and UN/CEFACT of > > June 2005: > > 1. UN/CEFACT recognizes UBL 2 as appropriate > > first-generation XML documents > > for eBusiness. > > > > 2. For OASIS and UN/CEFACT: > > (a) future UN/CEFACT deliverables constitute the > > upgrade path for UBL, > > and > > (b) the maintenance of UBL 2 remains with the OASIS UBL TC. > > > > 3. In the expectation that UN/CEFACT will produce its > > own integrated set of > > XML schemas within a period of three years, OASIS will > > produce no further > > major versions of UBL past UBL 2. > > > > 4. OASIS will grant UN/CEFACT a perpetual, irrevocable > > license to create > > derivative works based on UBL. > > -- > regards > tim mcgrath > phone: +618 93352228 > postal: po box 1289 fremantle western australia 6160 > web: http://www.portcomm.com.au/tmcgrath > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that > generates this mail. You may a link to this group and all your TCs in > OASIS > at: > https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that > generates this mail. You may a link to this group and all your TCs in OASIS > at: > https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php > >
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