[Date Prev] | [Thread Prev] | [Thread Next] | [Date Next] -- [Date Index] | [Thread Index] | [List Home]
Subject: Minutes of Manhattan UBL TC meeting 7-11 May 2007
MINUTES OF MANHATTAN UBL TC MEETING 7-11 MAY 2007
##################################################################
ATTENDANCE
##################################################################
Peter Borresen (by phone) Wed
Jon Bosak, chair MonTueWedThu
Tony Coates Mon Thu
Mark Crawford (representing UN/CEFACT ATG) Tue
Stephen Green (by phone) Wed
Mike Grimley MonTueWedThu
Flemming Møller Hansen MonTueWedThu
Betty Harvey TueWedThu
G. Ken Holman MonTueWedThu
Thomas H. Lyons MonTueWedThu
Tim McGrath, vice chair (by phone) MonTue Thu
Klaus Vilstrup Pedersen MonTueWedThu
Zarella Rendon MonTueWedThu
Andy Schoka MonTueWedThu
##################################################################
MONDAY 7 MAY 2007 (ALL-DAY PLENARY)
##################################################################
REPORT FROM THE CHAIR
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/24057
UN/CEFACT UPDATE
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/23921
HISC REPORT
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/23889
SBSC REPORT
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/23888
AGREED that SBSC should change its name (keeping the acronym if
possible) to reflect the fact that Accountis is only one of
many possible profiles.
AGREED that subcommittees should review their charters
periodically to reflect changing membership and objectives.
ACTION: JB to find the name of first UBL implementer in the
UK.
[FOLLOW-UP: It was IMPAQ (http://www.impaqbusinesssolutions.com/).]
USE OF UBL LOGO
AGREED that we should put the correct version of the logo on
the (old) MSC page and include a vector representation for
people wishing to customize it.
[FOLLOW-UP: The current versions of the logo are in fact
available from the document section of the old Marketing
Subcommittee Page:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/documents.php?wg_abbrev=ubl-msc
However, no one who was not involved with UBL back in 2003
would have any idea that these files existed, so they have been
zipped and uploaded to
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/24030
In addition to JPEGs at various resolutions, this file includes
the original Adobe Illustrator vector format as well as PDF and
EPS versions.]
AGREED that since the logo is not official, we will not attempt
to control its use, but we will not publicly encourage its use.
CODE LIST VALIDATION AND REVISION POLICY
See report at
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/200705/msg00005.html
and review of this plan under "Thursday 10 May 2007 (Closing
Plenary)."
##################################################################
TUESDAY 8 MAY 2007 (MORNING PLENARY)
##################################################################
CUSTOMIZATION
The group engaged in a detailed review of slides prepared by MG
and a set of notes prepared by GKH, resulting in edits to be
incorporated in the section of the Guidelines on customization.
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/24099
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/23654
A report on this discussion will be provided separately.
Tuesday afternoon was devoted to breakouts.
##################################################################
WEDNESDAY 9 MAY 2007 (MORNING PLENARY)
##################################################################
CUSTOMIZATION (CONT.)
The customization discussion continued, finishing the slides
from MG and continuing on to a consideration of the notes
prepared by GKH. A report on the customization discussion will
be provided separately.
Whiteboard:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/24102
##################################################################
WEDNESDAY 9 MAY 2007 (AFTERNOON PLENARY)
##################################################################
MINOR REVISION MECHANICS
Notes from the Wednesday afternoon session were lost when a
file became corrupted. However, most of the discussion took
place at the whiteboard, and the results of that were captured
in a photo. For decisions and action items resulting from this
discussion, see "Thursday 10 May 2007 (Closing Plenary)."
Whiteboard:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/24103
##################################################################
THURSDAY 10 MAY 2007 (MORNING PLENARY)
##################################################################
REVIEW OF STANDARDIZATION PROCESS
The OASIS standardization process was reviewed for the benefit
of new members. We discussed the mechanics of forming new
document types for UBL 2.1, including the formation of new
content subcommittees where necessary.
VERSION FORECASTING
Certain aspects of a pending minor version may become "carved
in stone" well before the minor version is released. Should we
set up a way to notify developers of such changes?
AGREED that our usual issues list with resolutions is as good a
forecast mechanism as we can safely deploy.
The change process for UBL 2.1 will follow the pattern
established for 1.0 and 2.0:
- Input from UBL subcommittees and the general public is
captured in an issues list / change log
- Disposition of issues is done by the appropriate
subcommittee
- Changes/additions proposed by the subcommittees are entered
into the spreadsheets by a single spreadsheet owner (i.e.,
one owner at a time)
- Final approval of all changes and additions must come from
the TC
2007/2008 UBL TC SCHEDULE
This summer we will schedule TC calls on a week-by-week basis
depending on availability. That is, all calls will be
scheduled as usual, but we will probably end up skipping about
half of them. NDR 2.0 editorial revision will take place in
Atlantic calls in which both the NDR editors can be present.
The UBL TC F2F scheduled for Stockholm 24-28 September 2007
will be chaired by UBL vice chair Tim McGrath.
AGREED that we will plan the 2008 meeting schedule at the
September meeting.
Organizers of the UBL International 2007 conference (NOT an
official activity of OASIS or this TC) inform us that the
conference will take place 1-5 October 2007 in Madrid.
UBL INPUT TO UN/CEFACT ATG2 REGARDING THE "HYBRID APPROACH"
AGREED on the following statement in response to the request
from UN/CEFACT ATG2 for input regarding the proposed "hybrid
approach" to the question of global vs. local scoping:
UBL NDR now appreciates the business requirements for the
hybrid approach, and we will support its incorporation into
the next version of CEFACT NDRs as soon as CEFACT formally
adopts it and there is support for it in a released version
of CCTS.
It was noted that in order to maintain our definition of "minor
release," UBL's naming and design rules will not change in this
respect during the 2.x release cycle regardless of the
direction taken by ATG2 on global vs. local scoping.
NES SUPPORT PAGE ITEM
AGREED to add the Northern European Subset materials to the
Support Page.
##################################################################
THURSDAY 10 MAY 2007 (CLOSING PLENARY)
##################################################################
REVIEW OF "CANDIDATE DECISION REGARDING CODE LIST SUPPORT
PUBLISHING"
The TC reviewed the summary provided by GKH as output from the
Monday discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/200705/msg00005.html
The following changes were agreed upon:
"(2) - the code list support files will be more useful if they
are posted to the UBL docs repository, since their relative
XPath addresses can point to the actual code lists"
For test purposes, the zip files will be posted through kavi
and not docs.oasis.
"there is a fault in the country identification code list for
Bosnia, so we should publish a repaired version as an erratum"
No, we will simply include this in an update.
"say we decided to publish a new code list support package in
February 2007 (a past date for illustration purposes) for the
erratum"
Omit "for the erratum."
"... we would have the new code list, the new context/value
association file that overrides the old context-value
association file, and the new resulting defaultCodeList.xsl in
a revision subdirectory:"
We will need to include directions on putting the revised
defaultCodeList.xsl file in the val directory, etc.
Add that we will also provide a zip file (in the example,
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/cl-200703-all.zip) that
contains all of the patches up till then.
"(Q1) - when do we set this up and get started? [...]"
AGREED that we will wait till October 2007, or perhaps the
TC F2F in September.
"(Q2) - how often do we publish the code list directory? [...]"
AGREED that we will release every six months, the dates to
be determined according to the date of the first release.
"(Q3) - does it make sense for a developer to find everything
in the latest ZIP file, or should the above be changed such
that there is no duplication and each ZIP directory has only
the files in that directory [...]"
AGREED that we will provide both the changes alone and also
a zip file containing a complete set of directories as
revised.
"(Q4) - note that the genericode filenames used above are
ambiguous ... is this a problem? The files are distinguished
by the subdirectories in which they are found, and by the meta
data found therein ... do we need to go the extra step of
distinguishing the file names, and if so, how do we do this in
a consistent fashion? My gut feel is that we do not and that
directory context is enough ... if a file is found out of
context, the contents reveal the meta data."
AGREED to accept this proposal and explain it in the
documentation provided with each release.
AGREED to publish with each 6 month release:
defaultSecondPass.xsl containing both code list .xsl and
business rule .xsl + explanation and directions, AND ALSO these
provided as separate .xsl files.
ACTION: GKH to write up the proposal as amended.
Incidental note: a new column is needed in the location code
list to disambiguate "Columbus" (e.g.).
MISCELLANEOUS ACTION ITEMS
See also items labeled "ACTION" in the above.
ACTION: JB to notify Roberto Cisternino of the decision to
allow free use of the unofficial UBL logo.
ACTION: JB to check with Chin Chee-Kai regarding availability
of a UBL 2.0 version of UBLish.
ACTION: PSC and TSC to provide feedback on UBL 2.0 SBS 2.0
(http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/23873).
ACTION: PSC and TSC to summarize business rules that are (1)
wanted in UBL but not allowed by the NDR (e.g., requirement to
include one of PartyName and PartyIdentifier but not both) and
(2) data items whose constraints are inherited from another
standard (e.g., lengths of data items specified by UNTDED); the
rules so identified to become candidates for a list of
schematron assertions "recommended to be included" (final
characterization TBD).
ACTION: JB to minute the one nonsubstantive spreadsheet error
found so far (the entry for BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA in
CountryIdentificationCode-2.0.gc is broken) and send a message
to this effect to ubl-dev.
ACTION: MG to investigate the impact of GKH's proposed
namespace-based versioning mechanism on the NDR.
AGREED that if no critical problems are found in this
investigation, we will adopt GKH's proposal for namespace-based
versioning, as contained in
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=23654
Writing assignments pertaining to the customization guidelines
(see separate report on this discussion, currently in
preparation):
ACTION: TM to write section on Guidelines for Compatibility,
draft to NDR editors by mid-August.
ACTION: JB to write up GKH's subset generation, subset
verification, and processing model proposals for inclusion
in the Guidelines, draft to NDR editors by mid-August.
ACTION: NDR editors MG and MC to write "Guidelines for
Customization" based on this week's review of MG's slides
and input from TM and JB; draft due 1 September for
discussion at the UBL TC meeting in Stockholm.
##################################################################
The morning of Friday 11 May was devoted to individual work
sessions.
Sumitted by Jon Bosak
Chair, OASIS UBL TC
[Date Prev] | [Thread Prev] | [Thread Next] | [Date Next] -- [Date Index] | [Thread Index] | [List Home]