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Subject: Re: General Notes from UBL TC Meeting, Stockholm 2007-09-24 (OpeningPlenary) - update
Please note that Tony Coates was also present at the opening plenary. Tim McGrath wrote: > General Notes from UBL TC Meeting, Stockholm 2007-09-24 > > Participants > Tim McGrath > G Ken Holman > Martin Forsberg > Peter Borresen > Mavis Cournane > Andy Schoka > Sunghyuk Kim > Ole Madsen > Michael Grimley > Thomas Lyons > Örn S. Kaldalóns > > Agenda > > Report from Vice-chair > ------------------------ > Thank UN/CEFACT Forum for arranging the facilities. > Major objectives are to forward the work on customization and to > progress the collaboration with UN/CEFACT. > > Report from HISC (By Ken Holman) > ------------------------ > Few volunteers for the moment. Ken is asking for assistance. There > will be UBL2 Invoice Style sheet available this week. The SC is > planning to priority the development of the same documents that exist > in UBL1. Denmark has several style sheets that can be used as starting > point. > > KH needs input on what part of UBL to map to UN Layout Key. > > Report from SBSC (By Ken Holman) > ------------------------ > PSC and TSC have been asked to review SBS, but nothing has yet been > reported back to SBSC. > > Report from TSC (By Andy Schoka) > ------------------------ > Andy Schoka is acting chair after Kama. TSC is working on liaise and > cooperate with governments and companies to gather requirements and to > test UBL in real-world scenarios. > > UBL BITS (UBL Basic International Trade Process) describes an > end-to-end process with sample data. The work is in progress. > > Based on the work, new requirements have been identified that should > be added/corrected in a new version. TSC is working with Danish Post > and Parcel & Pallets to examine the customization process. > > TSC is also working with Dansk Standard and is reviewing US DOT’s CEFM > test and use of status message. > > Report from PSC (Peter Borresen) > ------------------------ > Peter is acting chair after Mark Leitch. > PSC has a dialog with OASIS Tax XML regarding tax and customs related > question. > PSC is intending to have phone conferences once a month or so. Lots of > work will be done under the CEN workshop BII and the result from the > workshop will be feed back to PSC. > > Report from CEN/BII WS > ------------------------ > BII stands for “Business Interoperability Interface on Public > Procurement in Europe” and is a CEN (European Committee for > Standardization) workshop. A CEN workshop can be compared with a project. > > NES (Northern European Subset of UBL) and CODICE (E-tendering from > Spain) is submitted as input to BII. > > The result from BII will (among other things) be profiles/customized > UBL documents that can be used in the CIP i2010 roadmap pilot projects. > > CEN/BII has four working groups > 1. Message content and business processes > 2. UBL – UN/CEFACT convergence > 3. Toolbox > 4. Pilot support > > For more details, look here: http://www.en.ds.dk/bii and > http://www.cen.eu/cenorm/businessdomains/businessdomains/isss/activity/ws_bii.asp > > > Report from NES (Peter Borresen) > ------------------------ > During the start up of the BII WS, NES will be further refined and > developed to not loose time. > > Iceland is in production with NES and is currently adapting internal > processes. > > Report from Danish localization SC (Peter Borresen) > ------------------------ > Translation should be finalized in the end of 207 > > Denmark will update the legislation to force the public sector to > accept UBL2. In 2010 the old OIOXML (UBL 0.7) will not be allowed to use. > > Report from Korean localization SC (Kim) > ------------------------ > The SC is working with funding for the translation of UBL but hopes > that the translation will be finalized in the beginning of next year. > > Ken Holman has a tool to generate multilingual documentation read > more: www.cranesoftware.com --> free resources > > Update package and UBL 2.1 release (Tim McGrath) > ------------------------ > There are two major types of changes – the editorial corrections in > documentation, not affecting the schemas (in any other way than > annotation), the other type will require update of schemas (extensions > to UBL2). > > Some time during 2008 an update package will be delivered. > > UN/CEFACT relationship (Tim McGrath) > ------------------------ > Refer to "Status of Collaboration with UN/CEFACT" slides > (http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ubl/download.php/25562/Status%20of%20Collaborationversion2.ppt) > > - ref: Para 2C of cooperation agreement > - five points were outlined, two related to UBL > - agreements are between OASIS (not UBL TC) and UN/CEFACT > - TC has no authority to represent UBL, OASIS does > - the perception of "need something now, use UBL" is not well received > within UN/CEFACT > - comment on interpretation of "compatibility" w.r.t. customization > definitions of conformance and compatibility > - UN/CEFACT doesn't work with a concept of minor versions > - Q: what is the UN/CEFACT perspective of UBL traction? Unknown. > - no clear vision in UN/CEFACT of a solution for contextualization, so > each group is doing their own > - tempted not to express anything that promotes UBL as such activity > is not well received within UN/CEFACT > - three-year sunset clause in March 2006 Vancouver agreement > - likelihood UN/CEFACT will not be ready > - probably due to the approach taken by UN/CEFACT creates documents in > isolation and out of synchronization between groups e.g. > Cross-industry Invoice released 3 months ago is based on a different > library than the Cross-Industry Order released 3 months from now > - we wouldn't necessarily exercise the cancellation of the agreement > but OASIS would reserve the ability to cancel any time after if OASIS > perceives the need to move more quickly than what appears to be coming > from UN/CEFACT > -- regards tim mcgrath phone: +618 93352228 postal: po box 1289 fremantle western australia 6160 web: http://www.portcomm.com.au/tmcgrath
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