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Subject: Minutes of the UBL TC meeting in Kars 19-23 September 2011
My apologies to the group for my tardiness in finishing up these minutes from Kars. I see that a couple of things have fallen off the table in the interim; we'll discuss these next week. Please send corrections if you see anything incorrect or missing. -- Jon ======================================================================== MINUTES OF THE UBL TC MEETING IN KARS 19-23 SEPTEMBER 2011 ======================================================================== OPENING PLENARY 19 SEPTEMBER 2011 ATTENDANCE Present in Kars: Jon Bosak (chair) Mavis Cournane G. Ken Holman Andy Schoka Attending by phone: Arianna Brutti Andrea Caccia Betty Harvey Sven Rassmussen Ken Vaughn REPORTS Report from the chair: (slides posted the day of the meeting). HISC: GKH reports no activity -- no requests, no outstanding items. Nothing happening until/unless someone has a human interface problem. SGTG: GKH has delivered three strawman models to the Business Document Envelope Team; TM is convening a meeting to discuss. GKH will be creating a process to go from spreadsheets to genericode files to xsd for schema Q/A; the revised NDR will describe both parts of the process. SBSC: We have received a number of contributions from Stephen Green proposing additional conformance clauses for a subset profile. We think this is a separate deliverable, whereas SG thinks this should be in the conformance clause; on the agenda for discussion this week. NDR: BH has pulled this together and assigned chapters to individual editors. Juerg from NZ has contributed much content for Chapter 3. The revised NDR will be a smaller document with fewer rules, better suited to prescriptive modes of use (rather than just descriptive of UBL practice). The rules will be completely renumbered. BH reports that NIST does not have a rule labeling scheme, but there is one in the NDR schema that we could adopt, similar to the one UBL uses. We should look at practice in DON (Mike Grimley), OAGIS, NIEM. ======================================================================== CLOSING PLENARY 22 SEPTEMBER 2011 ATTENDANCE Present in Kars: Jon Bosak (chair)* G. Ken Holman* Mavis Cournane Andy Schoka* Attending by phone: Roger Bass Kenneth Bengtsson* Betty Harvey* Tim McGrath (vice chair)* Ole Madsen Sven Rasmussen* * current voting members RESOLUTION REGARDING UBL GOVERNANCE WHEREAS the UBL TC, from its inception in 2001, has had as its final chartered objective "Ultimately, to promote UBL to the status of an international standard for the conduct of XML-based electronic business," now therefore BE IT RESOLVED, that a UBL 2.1 Governance and Maintenance team (GMT) consisting of Jon Bosak, Tim McGrath, G. Ken Holman, and Andy Schoka be empowered to explore avenues for the submission of UBL to an international standards body. Yes votes: Bosak, Holman, Schoka, Bengtsson, Harvey, McGrath, Rasmussen No votes: none Abstentions: none The vote was unanimous and included all current voting members of the OASIS UBL TC. MOU/MG REPORT TM: Attended the second day of the ISO IEC ITU UN/CEFACT eBusiness MoU Management Group last week. It was a very positive meeting characterized by a spirit of goodwill, especially from the new ISO TC154 chair, Klaus-Dieter Naujok. The current UN/CEFACT reorganization was discussed, and a grace period for the establishment of new liaisons and collaboration policies was granted. UN/CEFACT REPORT TM: The first meeting of the UN/CEFACT Forum under its new structure is being held this week in Geneva. The new structure has two layers: a Bureau with nine members (including TM) that reports directly to the Plenary, and a set of project teams and project leaders. Every deliverable now has a team and a leader reporting to a Bureau member responsible for the project. In other words, the organization now has normal corporate project management. TM's areas are Supply Chain and Methodology/Technology. There is also a separate permanent group responsible for libraries and maintenance. The goal is to improve productivity and focus on areas that directly address business requirements. Harm-Jan van Burg has been appointed the vice chair responsible for external relationships; he is familiar with OASIS and should serve well as a liaison. The application of genericode for code lists is a particularly promising area of collaboration. GKH (as chair of the OASIS Code List Representation TC): we support this effort. TM: Also, CEFACT will be revisiting its NDR policy to preserve backward compatibility with existing implementations based on their NDR 2 and CCTS 2.01. This is another possible area of collaboration. Also, discussion with the project leader of the Business Document Header project suggests that we could collaborate on this as well. NDR REPORT GKH: The NDR document has a new organization and TOC. We are now recognizing UBL spreadsheets and schemas as two normative deliverables. An annex will point readers to the UBL 2.1 documentation, giving us a full specification of both CCTS 2.01-based spreadsheets and UBL schemas together with code to go between the two and a set of genericode code lists to be defined by the TC. LATIN AMERICA REGIONAL LOCALIZATION SUBCOMMITTEE KB: Electronic invoicing is high on the agenda for most Latin American countries; it will be mandatory in Mexico and Brazil for both public and private sectors. Brazil has its own standard invoice. Mexico uses five different formats, but many Mexican providers are using UBL. The only Latin American country currently requiring UBL is Peru, where a government portal (inspired by the ITST work in Denmark) has just been launched, but talks are underway with other countries as well. Peru is beginning to implement UBL Catalogue. There is a growing realization in Latin American countries that signed PDF is not the way forward, but it's an issue that the UBL documentation is not available in Spanish and that there are few Spanish-speaking UBL experts. This would be a good time to begin a Spanish version of ubl.xml.org. ACTION: JB to note the existence of multiple language versions of the data dictionary in the UBL 2.1 hub document. UBL 2.1 DOCUMENTATION JB has completed the consolidation of references to schemas and related items into a single section in the document; he will now begin the editing to bring PRD2 to PRD3, but he can't finish until all the content is in from PSC and TSC. We have received a revised set of figures for VMI from Arianna that are closer to the common style we are trying to establish, and we will be working to get them into the draft. JB and GKH will be working in the Friday session on testing revised DocBook stylesheets. TRANSPORTATION SUBCOMMITTEE AS: Have had discussions about PRD3 that deal with the eFreight project and will be including some new harmonized transport document types. We are presently accumulating a TSC issues list, including comments from Roberto and Audun. We also have input from USDOT for inclusion of a new document type harmonized with eFreight requirements to provide query/response for transport status. TC WORK SCHEDULE The schedule we had in July was based on PRD3 review beginning in mid-October, but this assumed close of all issues at the end of this meeting in Kars. In fact, we don't have all the comments resolved (aside from SG's there have not been any, but the review isn't closed yet), and there are known PSC and TSC issues still outstanding. We can now expect the schedule to slip by as much time as it takes to finish content changes and comment disposition. Two consequences: - We will need to perform comment resolution during TC phone calls. - We should think about a possible joint PSC/TSC meeting in Copenhagen in late November to complete issue resolution and align changes in the common library. Facilities can be available no earlier than 7 November and no later than the week of 28 November. We should have a decision on this no later than the beginning of October. MEETING SCHEDULE FOR 2012 It's too early to schedule anything for 2012. Perhaps we could hold a final meeting in mid-2012 to approve a plan for the further governance of UBL after 2.1. APPRECIATION TO OUR HOSTS AGREED that the UBL TC thanks Crane Softwrights for hosting the face-to-face meeting in Kars, and in particular that we express our gratitude and appreciation for Kathryn Holman's hospitality and unstintingly generous logistical support in making this meeting a success.
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