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Subject: ERRATA: Re: [ubl] Issue UBL-44 : Add a WithholdingTaxAmount to LegalMonetaryTotal


Below I accidentally made a mistake,

please change this sentence
PayableAmount could be a WithholdingTaxInclusiveAmount because it is subject to the PrepaidAmount.

with the corrected version:
PayableAmount could be different from a WithholdingTaxInclusiveAmount because it is subject to the PrepaidAmount.

Thanks
Roberto

Il 21/08/2016 15.23, JAVEST by Roberto Cisternino ha scritto:
Il 18/08/2016 12.43, Duvekot, Kees ha scritto:

All,

 

During the comment period for UBL 2.2 a request was made to align the invoice and creditnote around withholdingtax (UBL-18) [1]. The request to add the cac:WithholdingTaxTotal as an optional element was accepted to bring the billing documents in line with each other.

 

In that request there was also a possible need to add a “total” to the LegalMonetaryTotal element for withholdingtax. This was separated out as an individual issue UBL-44 [2].

 

In order to resolve that request we need to discuss the following questions:

 

·         Do we need to add this element?

from the invoicing point of view yes. But I noted some discussions about having UBL-Invoice playing the role of the UBL-CreditNote, but then the same could be said for the UBL-DebitNote or a self-invoice. If this is the path we need only to update the Invoice. FreightInvoice should be always a superset of the Invoice, so if we add something to the commercial invoice I think we must align the freight invoice too.

·         Is there a possibility that you can have multiple WithholdingTaxTotals on a billing document? and maybe even need to pay that to separate "entities"? and how do we represent that in LegalMonetaryTotals.

I can't see the case you describe. W/T is an income tax withheld and paid to the tax authority.
The withholdingtax total must be subtracted by the PayableAmount, other totals cannot be changed as they are VAT related.
So at the end of our VAT invoice we subtract the W/T total that is paid to the tax authority by the CustomerAccountingParty on our behalf.

A WithholdingTaxInclusiveAmount *could* be added to show the above calculation.
PayableAmount could be a WithholdingTaxInclusiveAmount because it is subject to the PrepaidAmount.

·         Do we need to separate out the WithholdingTax also with an inclusive/exclusive amount just like “normal” tax?

·         How does that relate to the rest of the calculation logic?

This is answered above

 

I would like to propose that we can discuss this issue on this list (ubl-post-award) until next week Tuesday, and then make a decision if we feel that there is enough consensus to add this element and enough clarity how it should be used, and how it impacts the calculations.

 

Kees D.

 

I have cc’d the main UBL list for those people that are not subscribed to the ubl-post-award mailing list. If you would like to comment on this then please subscribe to the ubl-post-award list to keep up to date with what is happing in this subcommittee.

 

[1] : https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-18

[2] : https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-44

 

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Roberto Cisternino
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