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Subject: Re: [ubl] CANCELLED: Atlantic UBL TC call 30 November 2016 15:00UTC


Hi Ken

I prefer to keep the existing time slot - until we reestablish the pacific call at least.

Best regards,

Kenneth


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From: Oriol Bausà Peris <oriol@invinet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: [ubl] CANCELLED: Atlantic UBL TC call 30 November 2016 15:00UTC
To: Ken Holman <gkholman@cranesoftwrights.com>
Cc: Tim McGrath <tim.mcgrath@documentengineeringservices.com>, Universal Business Language <ubl@lists.oasis-open.org>


Hi Ken

For me it is ok to maintain the time slot. Unfortunatelly today I am in Brussels and I’ve not been able to attend

Best regards
Oriol

> El 30 nov 2016, a les 16:16, G. Ken Holman <gkholman@CraneSoftwrights.com> va escriure:
>
> As only one other committee member showed up, we did not have quorum and the meeting is cancelled.
>
> I have proposed continued meetings in this time slot. Do we have to change the time slot in order to get more consistent attendance?
>
> I do understand that as we near the end of the year some members are very busy with calendar year-end responsibilities. Nevertheless, we are so close to a first committee draft and public review, I urge everyone to consider how they can help us get things done to put this in the hands of reviewers before the holidays.
>
> Of primary importance, I think, is the Party Role table. If you think this isn't important, then say so with justification. That, and more examples, are all that is missing (I think) for our first committee draft.
>
> Thanks!
>
> . . . . . . . Ken
>
> At 2016-11-28 21:31 -0500, G. Ken Holman wrote:
>> Agenda for Atlantic UBL TC call 30 November 2016 15:00UTC
>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=2016-11-30T15:00:00
>>
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>> REFERENCING THE SPECIFICATION
>>
>> - the following should be used as a specific citation:
>> OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.1 (ISO/IEC 19845:2015)
>> - the following would be used for a general (any version) citation:
>> OASIS UBL (ISO/IEC 19845)
>> - the canonical documents are available in the OASIS repository:
>> http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.1/
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>> - the ISO/IEC document and attachments are found at:
>> http://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/
>>
>>
>> STANDING ITEMS
>>
>> Additions to events calendar: http://ubl.xml.org/events
>> - any new events to add at this time?
>>
>> Review of Atlantic call minutes
>> https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201611/msg00013.html
>>
>> Membership status review
>> https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#membership
>> https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=ubl
>> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ubl/members/roster.php?num_items=80
>>
>> - voting status is determined by the following:
>> - existing voting members must not miss two consecutive meetings to
>> maintain voting status
>> - non-voting members must attend two consecutive meetings to obtain
>> voting status
>> - members formally on leave by prior request must not attend and
>> their voting status is not impacted
>> - current UBL TC voting member list (alphabetical) and relationships:
>> - Oriol Bausà Peris
>> - Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML, Editor TC434 Validation
>> - Kenneth Bengtsson
>> - Chair OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML
>> - Erlend Klakegg Bergheim
>> - Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML Core & MS
>> - Member CEN/TC434/WS8
>> - G. Ken Holman (Chair OASIS UBL TC)
>> - Member OASIS BDXR, CA Member JTC 1/SC32, CA Expert UN/CEFACT
>> - Ole Ellerbæk Madsen
>> - DK Member CEN/TC440, CEN/TC440 Liaison JTC 1/SC 32
>> - members approaching gaining voting status:
>> - Kees Duvekot
>> - Member OASIS BDXR
>> - Enric Staromiejski Torregrosa
>> - Member OASIS ebXML, European Commission liaison (DG GROWTH)
>> - active non-voting members
>> - Roberto Cisternino
>> - IT Expert UN/CEFACT
>> - Tim McGrath
>> - Audun Vennesland
>>
>>
>> UBL 2.2
>> - someone is needed to manage requirements for transportation documents
>> - Kees managing requirements for post-award documents
>> - Ole managing requirements for pre-award documents
>> - Roberto managing requirements for party information documents
>>
>> - the current UBL 2.2 csd01wd13 spreadsheet is found here:
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/185sbrn5rodJmu612GGI54_N0eQKNvKZhnoIgksM-MWI/edit
>> - the csd01wd12 working draft release of UBL 2.2 artefacts and hub document
>> is found at:
>> https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=59469
>> https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201611/msg00027.html
>>
>> - documentation requirements
>> - a Google text document of the csd01wd13 hub document is here:
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oCEm66zRTMF91jcXWiUSiV3EBkiZY1ojW2mYYqwqn6s/edit
>> - committee members have been given permissions to edit the document
>> - please colour additions in red and indicate in the hub document ticket
>> that a change has been made
>> - each submitter of new documents and objects must consider what additional
>> documentation is needed in the UBL hub document:
>> - general business rules - sections 2.2.x
>> http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.1/UBL-2.1.html#S-GENERAL-BUSINESS-REQUIREMENTS
>> - business objects - sections 2.x
>> http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.1/UBL-2.1.html#S-OVERVIEW-OF-BUSINESS-PROCESSES
>> - section 2.20 party roles is now managed separately using the XML document
>> "UBL-2.2-Party-summary-information.xml" in this directory:
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/117EDHqlOIYu7SIFg6ce8gOJs4PvE23nTewdWrMddUTU/edit
>> - section 3.2.x is now managed separately using the XML document
>> "UBL-2.2-Schema-summary-information.xml" in this directory:
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/11gF7jUG-RliMiTEf109lkwj0blbK7HAXizJvFNLYqik/edit
>> - edit the XML directly, or copy and paste into your favourite editor
>> - please do the process quickly to avoid conflict edits with others
>> - there is no need to maintain alphabetization ... just group new
>> documents at the end by subcommittee
>> - please inform Ken when the changes are made
>> - Ken will draw the diagrams if committee members sketch them out as needed
>> in pencil and send a photograph to Ken's email
>> - please note these documentation issues are on the critical path to the
>> release of our first public review
>>
>> - please review all JIRA tickets and comment and/or act where necessary:
>> https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=12972
>>
>> UBL-55 Pre-award issues for the hub document and document type names
>> https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-55
>> - how does figure 17 change?
>> http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.1/UBL-2.1.html#F-THE-TENDERING-PROCESS
>> - do we make the following changes to document names? do we leave the
>> response documents to be "...Confirmation" because they aren't used for a
>> negative response?
>> - _expression_ of Interest -> _expression_ of Interest Request
>> - _expression_ of Interest Confirmation -> _expression_ of Interest Response
>> - Unsubscribe from Procedure -> Unsubscribe from Procedure Request
>> - Unsubscribe from Procedure Confirmation -> Unsubscribe from Procedure Response
>> - do any other new documents need to have their name changed?
>>
>> UBL-52 Example XML instances must be created by all members
>> https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-52
>> - only a few have been added to UBL 2.2 ... we could use more
>>
>> UBL-51 Party role documentation must be completed by all members
>> https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-51
>> - no work has been done on this yet, this is probably on the critical path
>> - entries needed for all new document types
>> - remember to edit the XML and Ken will generate the table from the XML
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/117EDHqlOIYu7SIFg6ce8gOJs4PvE23nTewdWrMddUTU/edit
>>
>> UBL-34 Hub document change tracking
>> https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-34
>> - please note on this ticket when you have made changes to the hub document
>> - please remember to colour the additions and changes red when editing
>> - Ken has reviewed everything except the Party Role table and made changes to
>> accommodate UBL 2.2 based on input from others and a review of the UBL 2.1
>> content
>> - please review all of the content other than the Party Role table and
>> suggest changes; if no changes are suggested, the current text will be
>> used in the first public review; all changes are welcome (spelling,
>> grammar, turn of phrase, incorrect information, etc.)
>>
>>
>> JSON Task Group
>> - intermediate work being tracked in this document:
>> https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=59159
>> - emphasize that it is an exchange format
>> - can be mechanically transliterated to and from XML losslessly
>> - emphasize that it may not be suitable for other purposes
>> - e.g. direct consumption by tools such as Oracle and Mongo may not be
>> possible, requiring _javascript_, Python or other programming to create
>> a user's custom internal representation of the information found in
>> the exchange document
>> - what kind of document to describe the warnings?
>> - could be a "usage document" on its own or a chapter of the UBL NDR
>> - specification itself could be a chapter of the BD NDR
>>
>>
>> Naming and Design Rules
>>
>> - TC Admin announced the 60-day public review ending 18 December 2016:
>> https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201610/msg00011.html
>> https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201610/msg00012.html
>> - per TC process 3.4.1 last paragraph, nothing can change in the document
>> at this point until after the public review
>> https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#cos-Submission-laterChangesDisallowed
>>
>>
>> JIRA tickets
>> https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=12972 (note that the view can
>> be changed using the box icon at top right; the list view provides the most
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>>
>> - when creating tickets, remember to distinguish the following components
>> by how they are described to be used as categories:
>> <https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL/?selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:components-panel>https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL/?selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:components-panel
>>
>> - status and resolution values:
>> - NEW - the issue has been created but not yet agreed to be in
>> consideration or not for the development distribution
>> - in order for the issue to become active work for the committee
>> the new ticket must be changed to OPEN or it will not be seen
>> in the "to do" filter
>> - the other option on a new ticket is to change it to DEFERRED
>> - please remember to look at the open filter to ensure visibility:
>> https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=12972
>> - DEFERRED - the issue is not in consideration for the development
>> distribution
>> - please remember to use this when creating new tickets for
>> backwards-incompatible changes
>> - OPEN - the issue is in consideration for the development distribution
>> - keep the issue OPEN when assigning to Ken for incorporation
>> - please remember to add a comment regarding expectations whenever
>> you assign an OPEN ticket to another person for any action
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>> - RESOLVED + Cannot Reproduce - considered as no action for distribution
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>> - see also the discussion on the status workflows here:
>> https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201606/msg00022.html
>>
>> - members please note to discuss ticket issues as comments to the ticket so
>> that we can audit the discussion when making decisions about the ticket,
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>>
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>> the https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=13070 filter
>>
>>
>> TC CONCALL SCHEDULE
>>
>> Next Atlantic call meetings:
>> 2016-11-30 Atlantic teleconference 15:00UTC/16:00CET/10:00EST
>> Proposed:
>> 2016-12-07 Atlantic teleconference 15:00UTC/16:00CET/10:00EST
>> 2016-12-14 Atlantic teleconference 15:00UTC/16:00CET/10:00EST
>> 2016-12-21 Atlantic teleconference 15:00UTC/16:00CET/10:00EST
>> 2016-12-28 No UBL teleconferences
>> 2017-01-04 Atlantic teleconference 15:00UTC/16:00CET/10:00EST
>> 2017-01-11 Atlantic teleconference 15:00UTC/16:00CET/10:00EST
>> 2017-01-18 Atlantic teleconference 15:00UTC/16:00CET/10:00EST
>> 2017-01-25 Atlantic teleconference 15:00UTC/16:00CET/10:00EST
>>
>> Next Pacific call meetings:
>> CCYY-MM-DD Pacific 02:00UTC/21:00EST - November to March
>> CCYY-MM-DD Pacific 01:00UTC/21:00EST - April to October
>> - these teleconferences are suspended until warranted by attendance
>>
>> Will anyone be requesting a leave of absence in the near future? For
>> privacy reasons, this discussion will be kept off of the minutes.
>>
>> TC calendar:
>> <http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/calendar.php?wg_abbrev=ubl>http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/calendar.php?wg_abbrev=ubl
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>>
>> OTHER BUSINESS
>>
>> - as comes forward
>
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