RE: [uddi-dev] RE: Representing Hierarchical Value Sets (for example for uddi:uddi.org:categorization:types)

["Daniel Feygin" <feygin@unitspace.com>]

Having looked around WASP UDDI 4.5.1 I found what is apparently Systinet's
API for taxonomy management.  Mirek already stated it was accessible via
WASP UDDI Client API, but it seems like it can also be accessed as a Web
service specified in WASP_UDDI_HOME/app/uddi/WASP-INF/wsdl/taxonomy.wsdl.

Daniel

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Feygin [mailto:feygin@unitspace.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 2:29 PM
> To: 'Mirek Novotny'; 'uddi-dev@lists.oasis-open.org'
> Cc: 'Paul Denning'
> Subject: RE: [uddi-dev] RE: Representing Hierarchical Value 
> Sets (for example for uddi:uddi.org:categorization:types)
> 
> 
> Mirek,
> 
> Thanks for you help, I found the file on Systinet's site.  I 
> was wrong in my assumption that I had the latest version.
> 
> Regards,
> Daniel
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mirek Novotny [mailto:mirek.novotny@systinet.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:15 AM
> > To: Daniel Feygin; 'Paul Denning'
> > Cc: uddi-dev@lists.oasis-open.org
> > Subject: Re: [uddi-dev] RE: Representing Hierarchical Value 
> > Sets (for example for uddi:uddi.org:categorization:types)
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Daniel and Paul
> > 
> > Taxonomy.xsd schema describes the persistent format our
> > taxonomies. Try to browse our latest Systinet WASP UDDI, 
> > 4.5.1 documentation accessible at 
> > http://www.systinet.com/uddi/web/doc/ or use 
> > http://www.systinet.com/uddi/web/doc/uddi/taxonomymanagement.h
> > tml for taxonomy management description. The requested 
> > taxonomy schema is also accesible at 
> > http://www.systinet.com/uddi/web/doc/uddi/taxonomy.xsd
> > 
> > You can also try taxonomies on our live WASP UDDI registry at
> > http://www.systinet.com/uddi/web.
> > 
> > Taxonomy schema is also located in WASP UDDI distribution at
> > WASP_UDDI_HOME/etc/uddi/taxonomy.xsd.
> > If you want to explore our Taxonomy API you can try our 
> > taxonomy demos located at 
> > WASP_UDDI_HOME/demos/advanced/taxonomy or browse our Systinet 
> > WASP UDDI Client API javadoc at 
> > http://www.systinet.com/uddi/web/doc/api/index.html
> > 
> > If you will have any troubles please feel free to contact me.
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Mirek
> > 
> > --
> > Mirek Novotny
> > WASP UDDI Project Leader
> > Systinet  (formerly Idoox)
> > http://www.systinet.com
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Daniel Feygin" <feygin@unitspace.com>
> > To: "'Paul Denning'" <pauld@mitre.org>
> > Cc: <uddi-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>
> > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 7:31 PM
> > Subject: RE: [uddi-dev] RE: Representing Hierarchical Value
> > Sets (for example for uddi:uddi.org:categorization:types)
> > 
> > 
> > I could not find the file
> > WASP_UDDI_HOME/etc/uddi/taxonomy.xsd referred to in 
> > http://www.systinet.com/doc/wasp_uddi/uddi/taxonomymanagement.
> > html.  I looked in WASP UDDI 4.0.  Microsoft (as, I'm sure, 
> > other registry vendors) provides similar file-based taxonomy 
> > representation functionality and tools, while going somewhat 
> > further with an extension API get_relatedCategories: 
> > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-
> > us/dnuddi/html
> > /travtreeuddi.asp.
> > 
> > Daniel
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Paul Denning [mailto:pauld@mitre.org]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 9:07 PM
> > > To: Pranav Parekh; Wai-Kwong Sam LEE
> > > Cc: uddi-dev@lists.oasis-open.org
> > > Subject: Re: [uddi-dev] RE: Representing Hierarchical Value
> > Sets (for
> > > example for uddi:uddi.org:categorization:types)
> > >
> > >
> > > UDDI Spec TC is looking into "external taxonomies":
> > > 
> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/uddi-spec/200303/msg00000.html
> > >
> > > Systinet WASP-UDDI has nice support for taxonomy download
> > and upload
> > > using XML.
> > > http://www.systinet.com/doc/wasp_uddi/uddi/taxonomymanagement.html
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > >
> > > At 04:58 PM 2003-03-18, Pranav  Parekh wrote:
> > > >Thanks for the response Sam.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Some follow-up comments and questions..
> > > >
> > > >In my original question, when I mentioned that I was unable
> > > to find any
> > > >details in the spec. as to how the hierarchical value set is
> > > >represented.. I meant to say I was unable to find the XML 
> > > >representation of the hierarchical value set.
> > > >
> > > >Also, since there are no APIs for users of the registry to
> > > retrieve the
> > > >hierarchical value set (that a category scheme or identifier
> > > scheme is
> > > >bound to have), any vendor who thinks it is important or
> > > necessary to
> > > >expose this functionality for end users will have a custom
> > > >implementation.  In light of that, is there a preferred
> > > approach that
> > > >the UDDI committee has recommended which might become part
> > > of a future
> > > >specification?
> > > >
> > > >Thanks,
> > > >- Pranav
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Wai-Kwong Sam LEE [mailto:Sam.Lee@oracle.com]
> > > >Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 4:37 PM
> > > >To: Pranav Parekh
> > > >Cc: uddi-dev@lists.oasis-open.org
> > > >Subject: Re: Representing Hierarchical Value Sets (for 
> example for
> > > >uddi:uddi.org:categorization:types)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >The complete hierarchy of the value set
> > > >uddi:uddi.org:categorization:types tModel is detailed in 
> the spec 
> > > >section 11.1.1.4:
> > > >
> > > >http://uddi.org/pubs/uddi_v3.htm#UDDITypes
> > > >
> > > >There is no API for users of the registry to retrieve this
> > value set.
> > > >
> > > >In general, in UDDIv3, there are APIs (such as the
> > > get_allValidValues
> > > >you mentioned) to allow a *registry* (rather than the 
> users of the
> > > >registry) to retrieve valid values of a value set from a 
> value set
> > > >provider.
> > > >
> > > >The API set was created to allow a registry implementation
> > > to cache the
> > > >valid values for spell-check type of validation, rather
> > than for end
> > > >users to retrieve the values and the structure (such as
> > > hierarchy) of a
> > > >value set.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >- sam
> > > >
> > > >Pranav Parekh wrote:
> > > > > Folks,
> > > > >
> > > > > For UDDI Version 3, the UDDI specs. provides the
> > > hierarchical value
> > > >set
> > > > > for the uddi:uddi.org:categorization:types TModel.
> > > However, I was
> > > > > unable to find any details in the spec. as to how 
> this value set
> > > >itself
> > > > > is represented.  Additionally, I was unable to find any APIs
> > > > > relevant
> > > >to
> > > > > the retrieval or management of this hierarchical value
> > set (or any
> > > >other
> > > > > hierarchical value set for some other categorization
> > scheme).  The
> > > >only
> > > > > API relevant to value sets is the get_allValidValues but
> > > using that
> > > >API
> > > > > how would information regarding a hierarchical value set be
> > > > > retrieved?
> > > > >
> > > > > Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > - Pranav J. Parekh
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
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