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Subject: RE: [uddi-dev] ebXML registry and UDDI comparisons


FYI - I’d like to draw your attention to [1] – UDDI as the registry for ebXML Components” technical note

 

This UDDI Spec Technical Committee Technical Note (TN) provides technical guidance on how to use UDDI registries within the ebXML framework of B2B services. Specifically, it addresses the issues related to enabling automated discovery of ebXML framework components, such as Collaboration Protocol Profile and Business Process Specification Schema, using UDDI.

By adopting the technical guidance of this TN, users will enable trading partners and their Web services and ebXML infrastructures to interact using UDDI as a common registry.

 

[1] http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/uddi-spec/doc/tn/uddi-spec-tc-tn-uddi-ebxml.htm

 

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From: Patrick Chan [mailto:patrick.chan@oasis-open.org]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 19:44
To: Governor James; Daniel Feygin; Jørgen Thyme; uddi-dev@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [uddi-dev] ebXML registry and UDDI comparisons

 

Hi all,

 

I agree with Governor.  I am currently at the Asia ebXML EAC meeting in Hong Kong.  We have seen quite a number of

case studies in Asia revolving on work that utilises ebXML (e.g. DTTN (Digital Transportation and Trading Network) in Hong Kong

that leverages ebMS but not the registry at the moment,  e-Taiwan project, Sony Music in Hong Kong etc.).

 

Regards,

Dr.Patrick Chan

OASIS

Asia-Pacific Representative

Mobile: +65 96288583

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Governor James [mailto:jgovernor@redmonk.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:01 PM
To: Daniel Feygin; Jørgen Thyme; uddi-dev@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [uddi-dev] ebXML registry and UDDI comparisons

An awful lot of functionality that gets shipped is never used. That is the software business – like you say “consumer empowerment sales tactic”.

 

The built in support for UDDI has been there for a while, and adoption is still more limited than you would expect. My word processor has built in support for French characters and spelling but that doesn’t mean I use the functions.

 

I could not agree more with this statement: “I do believe that ebXML Registry has a defensible niche in B2B collaboration in specific verticals. Whether there is enough of a vendor ecosystem and innovation around ebXML to sustain it is another matter.”

 

Healthcare and automotive seem to be areas with the most current adoption. You might also look at geos – ebXML is a bit hotter in Asia Pac.

 

 


From: Daniel Feygin [mailto:feygin@unitspace.com]
Sent: 22 June 2005 15:44
To: 'Jørgen Thyme'; uddi-dev@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [uddi-dev] ebXML registry and UDDI comparisons

 

Jørgen,

 

I personally do not see any new ebXML registries coming or a compelling reason for them to come. The only viable ebXML Registry implementations I know of (Infravio [1] and Sun [2]) support both ebXML and UDDI, which I take as a consumer empowerment sales tactic. In my admittedly biased view, the momentum is certainly on the UDDI side with all SOA-enabling infrastructure (message/protocol intermediation brokers, development and management tools) shipping with built-in support for UDDI only. Because registry is not so much a feature of an architecture as it is its platform supporting specific capabilities, its value is proportional to the number of systems that leverage it. There simply isn't enough of a market opportunity or a viable go-to-market strategy for an alternative universal registry standard at this time.

 

Although SOA transformation is what drives a lot of infrastructure spending these days, I do believe that ebXML Registry has a defensible niche in B2B collaboration in specific verticals. Whether there is enough of a vendor ecosystem and innovation around ebXML to sustain it is another matter.

 

Somewhat tangential to your inquiry, I may note that if you are accessing the registry from within a Java platform, you may use JAXR (Java API for XML Registries), which is designed to support both ebXML and UDDI information models and API's through a common client interface. However it is unlikely that you will be able to run the same code against both ebXML and UDDI registries without change.

 

Regards,

Daniel

 

[2] http://www.sun.com/products/soa/registry/

 

 


From: Jørgen Thyme [mailto:jt@globeteam.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 4:54 PM
To: uddi-dev@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [uddi-dev] ebXML registry and UDDI comparisons

I have looked at the specs for v3 for the ebXML registry. Although the information model looks more detailed than in UDDI my immediate thinking was that adding my taxonomies in UDDI I can achieve a lot. And there are several implementations of UDDI.

 

What are your thoughts? Will vendors of UDDI registries add ebXML registry functionality to their existing products? Or will there be a complete new set of registry products coming?

 

 

Best regards / Med venlig hilsen

 

Jørgen Thyme

 

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