RE: [uddi-spec] RE: [wsrp-pfb] UDDI tech note draft-08

["John Colgrave" <colgrave@hursley.ibm.com>]

As the WSDL in UDDI V2.0 TN says, the use of the V3 wsdlDeployment feature
is not compatible with the WSDL/UDDI TN, and therefore it is not compatible
with the mapping in the WSRP document as that uses at least part of the
UDDI/WSDL TN mapping.

The V3 keys shown for the canonical tModels are not valid UDDI V3 keys.
They need to begin with "uddi:".

I think it unlikely that a "legacy V2" registry will implement support for
the "Entity Key Values" category system so I think it is reasonable that you
only use that in a registry that supports V3.  This is separate to the issue
of predetermined V2 keys.

On the issue of predetermined V2 keys, I am assuming that you will publish
the canonical tModels you define using the process defined by the UDDI TC
and this will ensure that the tModels are published to the UDDI Business
Registry with the correct V3 and V2 keys.  I think the assumption is that
UDDI registry products will provide support for tModels that are approved by
the UDDI TC, including their predetermined key, even if they do not have a
general capability for introducing content with predetermined keys.  There
will inevitably be a delay however so if a registry is used that does not
have such a general capability then applications will have to go through a
bootstrapping procedure to query the various tModels to discover the keys to
use in the particular registry they are targeting.

John Colgrave
IBM


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Jacob [mailto:richard.jacob@de.ibm.com]
> Sent: 09 July 2004 12:53
> To: Luc Clement
> Cc: uddi-spec@lists.oasis-open.org; wsrp-pfb@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: [uddi-spec] RE: [wsrp-pfb] UDDI tech note draft-08
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> Luc,
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> thanks for your valueable input.
> I've added your suggestion to our next revision (draft-08).
> Our TC is definitly interested in a UDDI TC review and we appreciate the
> UDDI TC's comments.
> We are going to start our first TC review in a few days.
> I will post an additional message to your list asking for comments and
> providing the links once we're set and ready for review.
> 
> Following some preliminary questions regarding your input:
> How does the usage of the useType attribute relate to the WSDL in UDDI
> V2.0
> technical note, Appendix A.
> We had the note concerning V3 wsdlDeployment usage in a previous version
> but haven't been sure about the compatibility to the tech note.
> 
> Could the use of the entityKeyValues tModel affect private UDDI registry
> usage, given the fact that "legacy" V2 registry may not provide this
> tModel?
> 
> Or to be more general: how do you deal with "legacy" registries where
> tModels with the predefined keys can not be injected, i.e. the registry
> would assign new keys.
> I'm asking because this might become also an interoperability issue with
> our tech note and I'm wondering if we need to add some guidance to our
> tech
> note.
> How do you deal with it?
> 
> Mit freundlichen Gruessen / best regards,
> 
>         Richard Jacob
> ______________________________________________________
> IBM Lab Boeblingen, Germany
> Dept.8288, WebSphere Portal Server Development
> WSRP Standardization Technical Lead
> Phone: ++49 7031 16-3469  -  Fax: ++49 7031 16-4888
> Email: mailto:richard.jacob@de.ibm.com
> 
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>              "Luc Clement"
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> Richard,
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> I commend your TC for such a nice job of mapping WSRP onto UDDI. I'd like
> to offer some brief comments on the TN (albeit these are based on draft 7
> as I haven't had a chance to review draft 8 yet).
> 
> A. useType attribute on accessPoint.
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> I like the fact that the TN isolates itself from v2 and v3 version issues
> but would like to propose that you note the following wrt the use of
> "useType" in the context of UDDI v3. The TC anticipated the use of a WSDL
> as an access point and thus provided support for it in UDDI v3 (which by
> the way maps to "other" in v2 as you've chosen). Section 3.5.2.1
> accessPoint of the v3 spec [1] describes the following useType:
> "wsdlDeployment: designates that the accessPoint points to a remotely
> hosted WSDL document that already contains the necessary binding
> information, including the actual service endpoint."
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> I think it would be worth mentioning this as a footnote in the TN
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> B. Categorization of the
> urn:oasis:names:tc:wsrp:wspr_producer_service_reference tModel
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> I recommend that his tModel be categorized with the
> uddi-org:entityKeyValues category system to enforce the reference to a
> businessService. For more information on this tModel - please see Section
> 11.1.9 UDDI “Entity Key Values” Category System of the v3 spec [1].
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> I think that careful review of version 8 and future drafts may uncover
> additional small issues and to this end, I recommend that the UDDI Spec TC
> review this TN though we may want to do so once you get closer to
> completing your work. I've copied the UDDI Spec TC as a heads up.
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> [1] http://uddi.org/pubs/uddi_v3.htm
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> Regards,
> 
> Luc Clément
> Secretary, OASIS UDDI Spec TC
> Systinet Corporation
> Tel: +1.617.395.6798
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Jacob [mailto:richard.jacob@de.ibm.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 08:04
> To: wsrp-pfb@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: [wsrp-pfb] UDDI tech note draft-08
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> Hi all,
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> I just post these to the list for now for a final SC review.
> As discussed please review the TN and let me know of intended changes.
> I espacially added the appendix A-E, added clarification on Portlet
> publishing (tModelKey redundancy in case of UDDI V3, Producer service
> reference) and revised the suggested editorial changes.
> Would be great if you could finish your review by end of monday (no matter
> what timezone :-) ).
> After that we can enter TC review.
> 
> (See attached file: wsrp-pfb-uddi-tn-draft-08.doc)(See attached file:
> wsrp-pfb-uddi-tn-draft-08.pdf)
> 
> Mit freundlichen Gruessen / best regards,
> 
>         Richard Jacob
> ______________________________________________________
> IBM Lab Boeblingen, Germany
> Dept.8288, WebSphere Portal Server Development WSRP Standardization
> Technical Lead
> Phone: ++49 7031 16-3469  -  Fax: ++49 7031 16-4888
> Email: mailto:richard.jacob@de.ibm.com [attachment
> "wsrp-pfb-uddi-tn-draft-08.doc" deleted by Richard Jacob/Germany/IBM]