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Subject: RE: [PATCH v6 1/1] content: Add new feature VIRTIO_F_PRESERVE_RESOURCES


> From: Chen, Jiqian <Jiqian.Chen@amd.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 4:09 PM

> > I think this can be done without introducing the new register.
> > Can you please check if the PM register itself can serve the purpose instead
> of new virtio level register?
> Do you mean the system PM register? 
No, the device's PM register at transport level.

> I think it is unreasonable to let virtio-
> device listen the PM state of Guest system. 
Guest driver performs any work on the guest systems PM callback events in the virtio driver.

> It's more suitable that each device
> gets notifications from driver, and then do preserving resources operation.
I agree that each device gets the notification from driver.
The question is, should it be virtio driver, or existing pci driver which transitions the state from d0->d3 and d3->d0 is enough.
Can you please check that?

> >> --- a/transport-pci.tex
> >> +++ b/transport-pci.tex
> >> @@ -325,6 +325,7 @@ \subsubsection{Common configuration structure
> >> layout}\label{sec:Virtio Transport
> >>          /* About the administration virtqueue. */
> >>          le16 admin_queue_index;         /* read-only for driver */
> >>          le16 admin_queue_num;         /* read-only for driver */
> >> +        le16 preserve_resources;        /* read-write */
> > Preserving these resources in the device implementation takes finite amount
> of time.
> > Possibly more than 40nsec (time of PCIe write TLP).
> > Hence this register must be a polling register to indicate that
> preservation_done.
> > This will tell the guest when the preservation is done, and when restoration is
> done, so that it can resume upper layers.
> >
> > Please refer to queue_reset definition to learn more about such register
> definition.
> Thanks, I will refer to "queue_reset". So, I need three values, driver write 1 to
> let device do preserving resources, driver write 2 to let device do restoring
> resources, device write 0 to tell driver that preserving or restoring done, am I
> right?
> 
Right.

And if the existing pcie pm state bits can do, we can leverage that.
If it cannot be used, lets add that reasoning in the commit log to describe this register.

> >
> > Lets please make sure that PCIe PM level registers are sufficient/not-sufficient
> to decide the addition of this register.
> But if the device is not a PCIe device, it doesn't have PM capability, then this
> will not work. Actually in my local environment, pci_is_express() return false in
> Qemu, they are not PCIe device.
It is reasonable to ask to plug in as PCIe device in 2023 to get new functionality that too you mentioned a gpu device. ð
Which does not have very long history of any backward compatibility.
Please explore the d0<->d3 PM state bit if can be used.

Thanks a lot.


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