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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 6/8] admin: Add theory of operation for write recording commands




On 11/15/2023 3:51 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 12:05:59PM +0800, Zhu, Lingshan wrote:

On 11/14/2023 4:27 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 03:34:32PM +0800, Zhu, Lingshan wrote:
So I can't
believe it has good performance overall. Logging via IOMMU or using
shadow virtqueue doesn't need any extra PCI transactions at least.
On the other hand they have an extra CPU cost.  Personally if this is
coming from a hardware vendor, I am inclined to trust them wrt PCI
transactions.  But anyway, discussing this at a high level theoretically
is pointless - whoever bothers with actual prototyping for performance
testing wins, if no one does I'd expect a back of a napkin estimate
to be included.
if so, Intel has released productions implementing these interfaces years
ago,
see live migration in 4.1. IFCVF vDPA Implementation,
https://doc.dpdk.org/guides-21.11/vdpadevs/ifc.html
and
That one is based on shadow queue, right? Which I think this shows
is worth supporting.
Yes, it is shadow virtqueue, I assume this is already mostly done,
do you see any gaps we need to address in our series that we should work on?

Thanks
There were a ton of comments posted on your series.
Hope I didn't miss anything. I see your latest comments are about vq states,
as replied before, I think we can record the states by two le16 and the in-flight
descriptor tracking facility.

For this shadow virtqueue, do you think I should address this in my V4?
Like saying: acknowledged control commands through the control virtqueue
should be recorded, and we want to use shadow virtqueue to track dirty pages.

But I still believe we are here try our best to work out an industrial spec
with better quality, to serve broad interest. This is not competition
between companies,
and the spec is not a FIFO, not like a early bird can catch all the worm.



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