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Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] Re: [RFC PATCH v6] virtio-video: Add virtio video device specification
Hi Cornelia,
On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 11:20âPM Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Mar 10 2023, Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@chromium.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Cornelia,
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 7:51âPM Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, Feb 07 2023, Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Tue, Feb 07 2023, Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@chromium.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Mon, Feb 6, 2023 at 11:13 PM Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> >>> I hope we can sort this out soon -- I guess I'm not the only one who is
> >> >>> anxious about this spec moving forward :) Please let me know if I can
> >> >>> help in any way.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'll try to address Alexander's points in more detail, but I am not
> >> >> seeing any blocking issue with using the V4L2 UAPI as the basis for
> >> >> virtio-video (we are working on a small proof-of-concept and things
> >> >> are going smoothly so far).
> >> >
> >> > Great to hear, looking forward to it!
> >>
> >> Quick question: Is there any git repo or similar where interested
> >> parties can follow along? It would be great to have virtio-video in 1.3;
> >> if you have some idea on when it might be ready, we could come up with a
> >> schedule to accommodate that.
> >
> > I'm glad you asked, as a matter of fact I have just finished the
> > virtio-v4l2 proof of concept today! It is capable of exposing a camera
> > or encoder V4L2 device from the host to the guest, by encapsulating
> > V4L2 commands into virtio.
>
> \o/ Excellent news!
I am delighted that you seem to like it!
>
> >
> > The guest driver code (single file for simplicity):
> > https://github.com/Gnurou/linux/blob/virtio-v4l2/drivers/media/virtio-v4l2/virtio_v4l2_driver.c
> >
> > Bulk of the host-side crosvm device code:
> > https://github.com/Gnurou/crosvm/blob/virtio-v4l2/devices/src/virtio/v4l2/protocol.rs
> > https://github.com/Gnurou/crosvm/blob/virtio-v4l2/devices/src/virtio/v4l2/worker.rs
> >
> > Neither are works of art, so please forgive the few inefficiencies
> > here and there - the goal was to make them easy to understand. Still,
> > the guest driver is probably closer to what a final driver would look
> > like. It fits in around 1,000 LoCs (comments excluded), which is
> > enough to support stateful video encoders as well as USB camera
> > devices. Decoders cannot be run yet because they require support for
> > V4L2 events and polling - I will try to enable these features next.
> > But even in its current state this driver shows one interesting aspect
> > of virtio-v4l2, at least for Linux guests: a single and relatively
> > simple driver is able to drive a wide range of devices.
>
> I had a quick look at the driver; it indeed looks like a big win on
> Linux systems. (The one thing I'm missing is how easy it would be to
> replicate the used v4l2 parts on non-Linux systems.)
For non-Linux systems (host or guest, we may need to copy/paste or
reproduce the UAPI structures. Thankfully they are unambiguously
described in the UAPI documentation, see for example
https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.9/media/uapi/v4l/vidioc-enum-fmt.html
for the formats structure.
>
> >
> > The crosvm device code proxies a V4L2 device on the host, again using
> > roughly 1,200 lines of non-comment code. This design does not intend
> > to reflect what an actual host device will look like - in effect they
> > should be much more specialized since they are unlikely to also call
> > into V4L2 on the host side. However, if the host is Linux and we just
> > want to expose a USB camera or other V4L2 device almost as-is, then
> > this could actually be a good fit.
> >
> > The protocol should be easy to understand by looking at the code - we
> > only have 5 virtio commands to open/close a session, map/unmap a
> > host-allocated buffer into the guest PAS, and the IOCTL command which
> > sends V4L2 ioctl structures to the host and waits for its reply. All
> > ioctls are synchronous per-session, meaning that a session only sends
> > one ioctl at a time and waits for its response before it can send the
> > next (as this is what user-space does too). Ioctls, however, never
> > block on the host side and the ones that would do (DQBUF and DQEVENT)
> > are replaced by host-initiated events. On top of being familiar to
> > people who have worked with V4L2 (i.e. a large portion of the media
> > folks), this simple design seems to be efficient as I have observed
> > identical performance on both host and guest with the vicodec virtual
> > encoder. Since this device generates frames using the CPU and keeps
> > one core 100% busy, any overhead introduced by virtualization should
> > be noticeable - yet I got nearly identical framerates on both host and
> > guest.
>
> I haven't worked with v4l2, but this approach sounds reasonable to me.
>
> >
> > Things that still need to be implemented before this can be considered
> > more complete:
> >
> > * Controls. This should not be particularly difficult but I left it
> > for now as they are not necessary to demonstrate the viability of this
> > project.
> > * Guest-allocated memory buffers and virtio objects. Based on our
> > previous experience with virtio-video these should not be difficult to
> > implement. Currently all video buffers are allocated by the host, and
> > mapped into the guest if needed.
> > * Events and polling, required to use a decoder. Again these were not
> > strictly necessary for the proof of concept, but since we've gone this
> > far I will try to get them to work as the next step.
> > * Requests and multi-part media devices. This will be necessary in
> > order to support more modern camera pipelines. I haven't made up my
> > mind yet about whether we should support this, but if we want to it
> > should not be too hard (describe several devices in the configuration
> > space and enable the request-related commands). I need to talk to
> > camera folks to know whether there is an actual interest in this.
> > * Support for more ioctls, in case we want to support tuners and radios.
> >
> > If you want to try this code, you need to build the guest kernel with
> > CONFIG_VIRTIO_V4L2 and enable the `v4l2` feature when building crosvm
> > (check out the Book of Crosvm if you need instructions on how to build
> > and use it). Then pass --virtio-v4l2=/dev/videoX to crosvm in order to
> > expose the /dev/videoX host V4L2 device to the guest.
> >
> > I have successfully captured frames (and verified their validity)
> > using the following devices:
> >
> > * A simple USB camera using the `uvcvideo` driver. Both host and guest
> > could capture a MJPEG stream with the following command:
> > v4l2-ctl -d0 -v pixelformat=MJPG --stream-mmap --stream-to=test.mjpg
> >
> > * The vivid virtual camera driver. I could capture a valid YUV stream
> > using the following command:
> > v4l2-ctl -d0 -v pixelformat=NV12 --stream-mmap --stream-to test.yuv
> >
> > * The encoder device of the vicodec virtual codec driver. On both host
> > and guest, the following command produces a valid FWHT stream in
> > `test.fwht`:
> > v4l2-ctl -x pixelformat=NV12 --stream-mmap --stream-out-mmap
> > --stream-to-hdr test.fwht
>
> This looks very good already.
Turns out that ffmpeg can also be used to capture video and encode it
in a more convenient format, e.g:
ffmpeg -f v4l2 -i /dev/video0 output.mkv
This is a very good sign with respect to compliance with V4L2
protocols. We had a very hard time getting the original virtio-video
to be used with common tools and passing the V4L2 compliance test in
general, but with this approach it seems like it will be much simpler
to achieve.
>
> >
> > By this work I hope to demonstrate to people interested in video
> > virtualization that encapsulating V4L2 in virtio is not only a viable
> > solution, it is a huge shortcut in terms of specification crafting,
> > driver writing, and overall headaches involved in specifying something
> > as complex as a video device. Not only could we support video decoders
> > and encoders, which was the goal of virtio-video, we would also get
> > image processors, video overlays and simple cameras for free, and
> > potentially more complex cameras if we decide to.
> >
> > After writing this prototype (and a couple attempts at the
> > virtio-video specification) I don't see any reason not to rely on a
> > battle-tested protocol instead of designing our own that does
> > basically the same thing. The genericity of V4L2 may mean that
> > sometimes we will need 2 commands where virtio-video would require
> > only one, but we are talking about a low frequency of virtio commands
> > (60 fps for video playback typically) and that genericity comes with
> > the benefit of a single Linux guest driver.
> >
> > If there is an agreement to move forward with this, I guess the next
> > step for me will be to write a proper spec so the protocol can be
> > understood and discussed in detail. Then why not try and upstream the
> > kernel driver and make ChromeOS use this too in place of our
> > heavily-patched virtio-video. :) We might even make it for virtio 1.3.
> >
> > Looking forward to your feedback. Please don't hesitate to ask
> > questions, especially if you are not familiar with V4L2. I can also
> > help folks interested in running this with the setup if needed.
>
> Thank you for sharing your work! I think this looks very promising, and
> I'd like to hear feedback from others as well. I assume that would make
> the spec change more digestible than earlier versions.
The spec should indeed be considerably lighter. I'll wait for more
feedback, but if the concept appeals to other people as well, I may
give the spec a try soon.
Meanwhile I'll also try to add support for stateful decoders and
guest-allocated buffers to the prototype so it can be considered more
complete.
Cheers,
Alex.
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