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Subject: Re: [virtio] CORRECTION: 15-day Public Review for Virtual I/O Device (VIRTIO) Version 1.0 - ends January 26th
On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 11:05:28AM -0500, Chet Ensign wrote:
> > But can something be done for existing spec until we release CS04?
>
> Not now, no. We don't go back and change content once published on
> docs.oasis-open.org. That would be effectively changing history and we feel it
> is critical to our large communities of developers, implementers and users that
> once a spec is published it will not change.
Oh well. Any chance you can maintain unversioned latest links, e.g.
http://docs.oasis-open.org/virtio/virtio/latest/final/virtio-latest.html
http://docs.oasis-open.org/virtio/virtio/latest/final/virtio-latest.pdf
?
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 10:16:10AM -0500, Chet Ensign wrote:
> > Hi Michael,
> >
> > Well, I can see the confusion you mention. In your case, at least the
> CS03 is
> > visible there as the Previous version. And generally speaking, we don't
> usually
> > have a situation like VIRTIO where a CS goes back into production as a
> draft
> > and winds up approved as a new CS. So this situation is uncommon.
> >
> > That said, if Latest version pointed to CS03, how would anyone know that
> work
> > was continuing under a new CSD? Potential for confusion there as well.
> >
> > Our procedure is to use Latest version to point to whatever the most
> current
> > stage of the evolution of the specification has reached. That way,
> someone who
> > happens to have a local copy of CS02 for example, and the spec is now a
> > Candidate OASIS Standard, will get that most current incarnation of the
> spec
> > when the ask for the Latest version.
> >
> > One way to solve this though would be, under Related work, to indicate
> that
> >
> > "This specification updates:
> > Virtual I/O Device (VIRTIO) Version 1.0. Edited by Rusty Russell, Michael
> S.
> > Tsirkin, Cornelia Huck, and Pawel Moll. 02 August 2015. OASIS Committee
> > Specification 03. http://docs.oasis-open.org/virtio/virtio/v1.0/cs03/
> > virtio-v1.0-cs03.html."
>
> Our next version will likely be CS04 so it won't be a problem then.
> But can something be done for existing spec until we release CS04?
>
> >
> > So that way it would be made clear on page 1 of the spec. That's probably
> a
> > good idea for the cases like this where a CSPRD has followed an OASIS
> > deliverable.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > /chet
>
>
> What I *really* think is that we would like to have a non-versioned
> latest final deliverable link:
> http://docs.oasis-open.org/virtio/virtio/latest/final/virtio-latest.html
> http://docs.oasis-open.org/virtio/virtio/latest/final/virtio-latest.pdf
>
> Then we could stop releasing new CS versions after CS04, and increment
> the version number instead.
>
> As it is we are forced to release CS versions, otherwise people
> following "latest" link in the document won't find the latest spec.
>
>
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 4:16 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Chet,
> > I noticed that the latest versions:
> > http://docs.oasis-open.org/virtio/virtio/v1.0/virtio-v1.0.html
> > http://docs.oasis-open.org/virtio/virtio/v1.0/virtio-v1.0.pdf
> > Have been replaced with the csprd05 version as well.
> >
> > This seems to confuse people: they arrive
> > at the latest version link, see that it's a draft,
> > and assume that no final deliverable has been
> > created yet.
> >
> > I think that virtio-1.0 should point at CS03,
> > don't you agree?
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 09:49:01AM -0500, Chet Ensign wrote:
> > > In last nights announcement of the public review for Virtual I/O
> Device
> > > (VIRTIO) Version 1.0, I stated that "This public review draft makes
> > changes to
> > > Committee Specification 03. The changes are tracking in the
> red-line file
> > at
> > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/virtio/virtio/v1.0/cs03/
> > virtio-v1.0-cs03-diff.html."
> > > The correction location for the red-line file is http://
> > docs.oasis-open.org/
> > > virtio/virtio/v1.0/csprd05/virtio-v1.0-csprd05-diff.html. My
> apologies to
> > all
> > > for the error.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > /chet
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 8:28 PM, Chet Ensign <
> chet.ensign@oasis-open.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > OASIS members and other interested parties,
> > >
> > > The OASIS Virtual I/O Device (VIRTIO) TC members [1] have
> produced an
> > > updated Committee Specification Draft (CSD) and submitted this
> > > specification for 15-day public review:
> > >
> > > Virtual I/O Device (VIRTIO) Version 1.0
> > > Committee Specification Draft 05 / Public Review Draft 05
> > > 29 October 2015
> > >
> > > Specification Overview:
> > >
> > > This document describes the specifications of the "virtio"
> family of
> > > devices. These devices are found in virtual environments, yet
> by
> > design
> > > they are not all that different from physical devices, and this
> > document
> > > treats them as such. This allows the guest to use standard
> drivers
> > and
> > > discovery mechanisms.
> > >
> > > The purpose of virtio and this specification is that virtual
> > environments
> > > and guests should have a straightforward, efficient, standard
> and
> > > extensible mechanism for virtual devices, rather than boutique
> > > per-environment or per-OS mechanisms.
> > >
> > > Public Review Period:
> > >
> > > The public review starts 12 January 2016 at 00:00 UTC and ends
> 26
> > January
> > > 2016 at 11:59 UTC. This public review draft makes changes to
> > Committee
> > > Specification 03. The changes are tracking in the red-line file
> at
> > http://
> > > docs.oasis-open.org/virtio/virtio/v1.0/cs03/
> > virtio-v1.0-cs03-diff.html.
> > >
> > > This is an open invitation to comment. OASIS solicits feedback
> from
> > > potential users, developers and others, whether OASIS members
> or not,
> > for
> > > the sake of improving the interoperability and quality of its
> > technical
> > > work.
> > >
> > > URIs:
> > > The prose specification document and related files are
> available
> > here:
> > >
> > > Editable source (Authoritative):
> > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/virtio/virtio/v1.0/csprd05/tex/
> > >
> > > HTML:
> > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/virtio/virtio/v1.0/csprd05/
> > > virtio-v1.0-csprd05.html
> > >
> > > PDF:
> > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/virtio/virtio/v1.0/csprd05/
> > > virtio-v1.0-csprd05.pdf
> > >
> > > Example Driver Listing:
> > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/virtio/virtio/v1.0/csprd05/listings/
> > >
> > > ZIP distribution files (complete):
> > >
> > > For your convenience, OASIS provides a complete package of the
> prose
> > > specification and related files in a ZIP distribution file. You
> can
> > > download the ZIP file here:
> > >
> > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/virtio/virtio/v1.0/csprd05/
> > > virtio-v1.0-csprd05.zip
> > >
> > > Additional information about this specification and the VIRTIO
> TC may
> > be
> > > found on the TC's public home page located at:
> > >
> > > http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/virtio/
> > >
> > > Comments may be submitted to the TC by any person through the
> use of
> > the
> > > OASIS TC Comment Facility which can be accessed via the button
> > labeled
> > > "Send A Comment" at the top of the TC public home page, or
> directly
> > at:
> > >
> > > http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/comments/form.php?
> wg_abbrev=
> > virtio
> > >
> > > Feedback submitted by TC non-members for this work and for
> other work
> > of
> > > this TC is publicly archived and can be viewed at:
> > >
> > > http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/virtio-comment/
> > >
> > > All comments submitted to OASIS are subject to the OASIS
> Feedback
> > License,
> > > which ensures that the feedback you provide carries the same
> > obligations at
> > > least as the obligations of the TC members. In connection with
> this
> > public
> > > review of 'Virtual I/O Device (VIRTIO) Version 1.0', we call
> your
> > attention
> > > to the OASIS IPR Policy [2] applicable especially [3] to the
> work of
> > this
> > > technical committee. All members of the TC should be familiar
> with
> > this
> > > document, which may create obligations regarding the disclosure
> and
> > > availability of a member's patent, copyright, trademark and
> license
> > rights
> > > that read on an approved OASIS specification.
> > >
> > > OASIS invites any persons who know of any such claims to
> disclose
> > these if
> > > they may be essential to the implementation of the above
> > specification, so
> > > that notice of them may be posted to the notice page for this
> TC's
> > work.
> > >
> > > ========== Additional references:
> > >
> > > [1] OASIS Virtual I/O Device (VIRTIO) TC
> > > http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/virtio/
> > >
> > > [2] http://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/ipr
> > >
> > > [3] http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/virtio/ipr.php
> > > https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/ipr#
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> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > /chet
> > > ----------------
> > > Chet Ensign
> > > Director of Standards Development and TC Administration
> > > OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society
> > > http://www.oasis-open.org
> > >
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> > >
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> > >
> > > /chet
> > > ----------------
> > > Chet Ensign
> > > Director of Standards Development and TC Administration
> > > OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society
> > > http://www.oasis-open.org
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> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > /chet
> > ----------------
> > Chet Ensign
> > Director of Standards Development and TC Administration
> > OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society
> > http://www.oasis-open.org
> >
> > Primary: +1 973-996-2298
> > Mobile: +1 201-341-1393
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> /chet
> ----------------
> Chet Ensign
> Director of Standards Development and TC Administration
> OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society
> http://www.oasis-open.org
>
> Primary: +1 973-996-2298
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