Re: [ws-caf] Meeting notes 3-22-2004

["Mark Little" <mark.little@arjuna.com>]

I think it's true that Web services receive documents and those documents
are used to determine work that has to be "done". But conceptually the are
being invoked and they do offer services/operations/types of work. WSDL even
goes as far as providing the <operation></operation> name, so it's not like
we're not following the standard as far as the work "operation" goes. And as
for "invoked", once again other specs. (e.g., BPEL) use the same term in the
same way (and in the same sentence as "operation").

I think this isn't the time or place to start a holy war about syntax. The
worst thing we could do is start to use completely different terminology
from what our readers will be used to. Now that's not to say that the
discussion is irrelevant, only that this isn't the venue for it.

Mark.

----
Mark Little,
Chief Architect, Transactions,
Arjuna Technologies Ltd.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Savas Parastatidis" <Savas.Parastatidis@newcastle.ac.uk>
To: "ws-caf" <ws-caf@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 12:10 AM
Subject: RE: [ws-caf] Meeting notes 3-22-2004


> All,
>
> I am sorry for this intervention in your technical discussions. I know I
> haven't been active in following the excellent work you've been doing
> here but I just couldn't resist in sending this comment...
>
> >
> > 3)  Should "web service operations performed" be changed to "web
> > services operation invocations" in the first sentence.
> >
>
> I think that the choice of the term "operation" in WSDL is not
> representative of what actually takes place. I believe that Web Services
> shouldn't be seen as having operations that can be "performed" or
> "invoked". Instead, Web Services just send and receive messages. The
> terms "perform" and "invoke" may give the wrong impression and may lead
> us to think in terms (ooops... overloading of the term "term" here :-)
> of other architectural models (e.g., RPC or object-orientation).
>
> I do hope that this make sense even though I am not expecting everyone
> to agree, even those from just few buildings away from where I am based
> :-))
>
> Just my 2p.
>
> Regards,
> --
> Savas Parastatidis
> http://savas.parastatidis.name
>
>