RE: [ws-caf] Cancelling Monday's call

["Mark Little" <mark.little@jboss.com>]

Title: RE: [ws-caf] Cancelling Monday's call

We need to distinguish between WS-CF and WS-Context. The discussion is around WS-Context as a standard and not WS-CF. There are a number of WS-Context users out there (including JBoss/Redhat) and I think it has utility in being standardised.

I also think the reality of why BTP wasn't standardised is slightly different: there was a massive overlap between BTP and other efforts. There is no overlap with WS-Context.

Mark.


-----Original Message-----
From: Alastair Green [mailto:alastair.green@choreology.com]
Sent: Mon 17/04/2006 18:28
To: Martin Chapman
Cc: 'Newcomer, Eric'; ws-caf@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [ws-caf] Cancelling Monday's call

WS-Context exists but level of usage dubious. BTP had good grace never
to attempt to get standard status once clear it was a "boutique
standard". Suggest WS-CAF shows similar self-discipline. WS-CF pointless
without referencing specs -- see difficulty of truly disentangling
WS-Coordination from its users in WS-TX. Mark right that standards in
this area without IBM/MS backing will not succeed. Arjuna/IONA defection
to WS-TX was kiss of death. Oracle right to recognize that reality and
shift focus to WS-TX. RIP.

Alastair

Martin Chapman wrote:
> Fine by me.
> 
> Any others want to chime in on Mark's email thread about the future of
> the TC?
> 
> Martin
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     *From:* Newcomer, Eric [mailto:Eric.Newcomer@iona.com]
>     *Sent:* Sunday, April 09, 2006 10:15 PM
>     *To:* ws-caf@lists.oasis-open.org
>     *Subject:* [ws-caf] Cancelling Monday's call
>
>     Unfortunately I have a conflict for Monday's meeting time.  Also
>     the public review for WS-Context ends April 18.
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>     
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>     The next scheduled bi-weekly meeting I can reasonably attend is
>     May 8.  We would normally have a meeting April 24 but I will be in
>     Tokyo and the time would be inconvenient. 
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>
>     So I suggest we organize ourselves for a call May 8 and prepare to
>     resolve the major outstanding questions we have around the further
>     adoption of WS-Context as an OASIS standard (requiring 3
>     implementations), the desired status of WS-CF, and the future of
>     the TC beyond that (if any).
>
>     
>
>     Please comment, send suggestions, etc.
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>     
>
>     Thanks,
>
>     
>
>     Eric
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