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Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] next CD? (or how to translate a member-only doc URL to a public doc URL)
Yeah, I'm terrible on member only links to docs since I almost always get to them via the member page. Thanks for figuring this out by the way. It's good to know how these links are constructed. Marc Goodner Technical Diplomat Microsoft Corporation Tel: (425) 703-1903 Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/mrgoodner/ -----Original Message----- From: Anish Karmarkar [mailto:Anish.Karmarkar@oracle.com] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 5:51 PM To: Marc Goodner Cc: Doug Davis; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org; Patil, Sanjay; Paul Fremantle Subject: Re: [ws-rx-editors] next CD? (or how to translate a member-only doc URL to a public doc URL) Marc Goodner wrote: > Ah, now I understand. I still think it would be good if we could use > public links to the drafts going forward so I stick by my comment that > we should point this out to the full TC and ask that they use the proper > link format. > +1 I sure am guilty of including member-only links in emails/issues/etc. It is just so easy to do that, since you have to go to the member page to do other things (such as upload docs, see the docs other than CDs/issue-list, look at minutes, etc) and everything referenced from the member-page is member-only. > On the CD2 point specifically, I think that the current CD2 link is > tagged as "candidate" so I didn't want to use that one. > I though our TC > administrator was going to put the CD at the proper location which was > why there isn't a just CD02 link in Kavi other than the candidate link. > So that was the link I was waiting for. I guess I know what it's going > to be so I could do an optimistic update. You are right about that. BTW the 'location' value in CD 2 points to http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/200510/wsrm-1.1-spec-cd-02.pdf. If you are going to do an optimistic update, that is the URL that should be used (rather than the one in my previous email -- which pointed to www.oasis-open.org). In addition to the PDFs the CD 2 package had other docs (such as schema/wsdl/RDDL) which MUST be hosted at docs.oasis-open.org (our spec requires it). > > Marc Goodner > Technical Diplomat > Microsoft Corporation > Tel: (425) 703-1903 > Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/mrgoodner/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Anish Karmarkar [mailto:Anish.Karmarkar@oracle.com] > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 4:50 PM > To: Marc Goodner > Cc: Doug Davis; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org; Patil, Sanjay; Paul > Fremantle > Subject: Re: [ws-rx-editors] next CD? (or how to translate a member-only > doc URL to a public doc URL) > > Marc, > > I did not mean to imply that you (or anyone) should scrub the current > issues list of member-only links. I thought you were waiting for the CD > 2 draft to be public and I was merely point out (and sharing my > experience with KAVI public/member-only URL behavior) that it already > was public, given the weirdness of KAVI. > > -Anish > -- > > Marc Goodner wrote: > >>Anish, >> >>I have been using the public urls for the mail links for a long time. > > It > >>is rare I mess that up anymore. The doc ones, honestly I use whatever >>I'm given. >> >>Can the chair this week please ask the TC to use the public links when >>referring to TC docs from now on to help in this? It would be good to >>capture Anish's notes below on this in the minutes to aid the members > > in > >>following through with this. >> >>I'm not going to go through the issue list and scrub out member only >>links, there just isn't any return on the investment of that time. If >>someone else wants to, have at it. Just let me know when you are going >>to do it so we don't step on each other's edits. >> >>I'm editing the issue list right now. I expect it will get updated >>today. >> >>It would be much better if the staff would fix Kavi. I can't even > > begin > >>to comment on how stupid it is to have a protected link that is also >>public that just introduces problems rather than solving any. See the >>above and the TC Process document for more details on how asinine > > Kavi's > >>behavior in this regard is. >> >>Marc Goodner >>Technical Diplomat >>Microsoft Corporation >>Tel: (425) 703-1903 >>Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/mrgoodner/ >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Anish Karmarkar [mailto:Anish.Karmarkar@oracle.com] >>Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 4:12 PM >>To: Marc Goodner >>Cc: Doug Davis; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org; Patil, Sanjay; > > Paul > >>Fremantle >>Subject: Re: [ws-rx-editors] next CD? (or how to translate a > > member-only > >>doc URL to a public doc URL) >> >>Marc, >> >>I have noticed that like the email archive, every document in KAVI (at >>least in WSRX) has a member-only URL and a public URL. >> >>The member only URLs are typically: >> > > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx/download.php/<some-nu > >>meric-id>/<doc-name> >> >>The public URLs are typically: >> > > http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/<some-numeric-id>/<doc > >>-name> >> >>If you see a member-only URL for a doc you can translate the URL to a >>public URL be using the appropriate prefix (replace >>"apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx" with "committees" in the URL) >> >>For example the member-only CD2 URLs are: >> > > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx/download.php/16271/ws > >>rm-1.1-spec-cd-02.pdf >> > > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx/download.php/16273/ws > >>rmp-1.1-spec-cd-02.pdf >> >>The equivalent public URLs are: >> > > http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/16271/wsrm-1.1-spec-cd > >>-02.pdf >> > > http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/16273/wsrmp-1.1-spec-c > >>d-02.pdf >> >>In fact the only important thing is the <some-numeric-id> everything >>else is irrelevant. >> >>The URLs: >> > > http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/16271/wsrm-1.1-spec-cd > >>-02.pdf >> > > http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/16271/complete-garbage > > http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/16271/really-important > >>all return the same document. >> >>Not sure if you are waiting for public URLs for updating the issues >>list, but thought I would mention. All of this doesn't help if things >>need to happen on http://docs.oasis-open.org. >> >>-Anish >>-- >> >>Marc Goodner wrote: >> >> >>>Also, it isn't our fault (that I can tell) but it sure would be nice >> >>if >> >> >>>the CD2 could get posted before we get to CD3. How long have we been >>>waiting on an answer now on that? Are we going to get to PR before any >> >> >>>of our approved CDs get posted? Honestly I've been sitting on a bunch >> >>of >> >> >>>the "done" issues that need to be changed to "closed" so that I can >> >>add >> >> >>>a remark pointing to the CD2 doc that closes them. This is really >>>starting to hurt. >>> >>> >>> >>>Sanjay or Paul, have you guys heard anything yet? >>> >>> >>> >>>Marc Goodner >>> >>>Technical Diplomat >>> >>>Microsoft Corporation >>> >>>Tel: (425) 703-1903 >>> >>>Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/mrgoodner/ >>> >>> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>*From:* Marc Goodner [mailto:mgoodner@microsoft.com] >>>*Sent:* Monday, February 20, 2006 1:32 PM >>>*To:* Doug Davis; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org >>>*Subject:* RE: [ws-rx-editors] next CD? >>> >>> >>> >>>I have plans to review today, at least as a first pass. I expect I'll >>>get though a deeper review at the latest tomorrow afternoon. >>> >>> >>> >>>Was a CD3 candidate asked for by the TC? Seems premature if not, I >>>suggest bringing this up on Thursday's call and being ready to post it >> >> >>>afterwards. Not that I'm opposed, I'm actually inclined to think we >>>should do a CD before the F2F. >>> >>> >>> >>>Marc Goodner >>> >>>Technical Diplomat >>> >>>Microsoft Corporation >>> >>>Tel: (425) 703-1903 >>> >>>Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/mrgoodner/ >>> >>> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>*From:* Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com] >>>*Sent:* Monday, February 20, 2006 1:13 PM >>>*To:* ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org >>>*Subject:* [ws-rx-editors] next CD? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>All, >>> I just did a quick scan of the diffs between the last CD and the WDs >> >> >>>we have available. I found two minor typos in the core spec but >> >>nothing >> >> >>>serious enough to regen everything. Has anyone else looked at 'em >>>(aside from Anish) - I'd like to post 'em to the TC today as candidate >> >> >>>CD 3. >>>thanks >>>-Doug >>> >> >>
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