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Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] Fw: [ws-rx] Comments on WS-RM WD 13 and WS-RM Policy WD 9


Yes it is a Visio file. I can export a png. I think Doug already took
care of this though. I'm trying to get a print out to double check but
the pdf he just sent it scanned fine on screen.

-----Original Message-----
From: Anish Karmarkar [mailto:Anish.Karmarkar@oracle.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 5:27 PM
To: Marc Goodner
Cc: Gilbert Pilz; Doug Davis; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [ws-rx-editors] Fw: [ws-rx] Comments on WS-RM WD 13 and
WS-RM Policy WD 9

Is that a visio file or something else?
I can't open it.
Running a cygwin 'file' on the document says: "Microsoft Office
Document"

-Anish
--

Marc Goodner wrote:
> Original art attached, but without Chris' changes.
> 
>  
> 
> *From:* Gilbert Pilz [mailto:Gilbert.Pilz@bea.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 07, 2006 4:11 PM
> *To:* Doug Davis; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org
> *Subject:* RE: [ws-rx-editors] Fw: [ws-rx] Comments on WS-RM WD 13 and

> WS-RM Policy WD 9
> 
>  
> 
> Chris provided me with the attached PPT, but I can't figure out how to

> scale it down to fit on the page without making it illegible. If all 
> else fails we can craft our own version and include it in the spec . .
.
> 
>  
> 
> - gp
> 
>      
> 
>     
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> 
>     *From:* Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com]
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, June 07, 2006 7:43 AM
>     *To:* ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org
>     *Subject:* [ws-rx-editors] Fw: [ws-rx] Comments on WS-RM WD 13 and
>     WS-RM Policy WD 9
> 
> 
>     So,
>       things we should discuss:
> 
>     - Should we reorder the schema, message examples and wsdl?  I
think
>     Marc's idea sounds right - schema, wsdl and then samples
>     - Who has the source for figure 2?
>     - Thoughts on quotes around "none" ?   Not a biggie but I do
prefer
>     them there.
> 
>     thanks,
>     -Doug
> 
>     ----- Forwarded by Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM on 06/07/2006 10:36 AM 
> -----
> 
>     *Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS*
> 
>     06/07/2006 10:39 AM
> 
>     	
> 
>     To
> 
>     	
> 
>     "Marc Goodner" <mgoodner@microsoft.com 
> <mailto:mgoodner@microsoft.com>>
> 
>     cc
> 
>     	
> 
>     ws-rx@lists.oasis-open.org <mailto:ws-rx@lists.oasis-open.org>
> 
>     Subject
> 
>     	
> 
>     Re: [ws-rx] Comments on WS-RM WD 13 and WS-RM Policy WD 9
> 
>      
> 
>     	
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     Marc - thanks for the detailed review - comments inline.
>     -Doug
> 
>     "Marc Goodner" <mgoodner@microsoft.com
>     <mailto:mgoodner@microsoft.com>> wrote on 06/05/2006 02:07:29 PM:
>>  WS-RM WD 13
>>  http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx/download.
>>  php/18451/wsrm-1.1-spec-wd-13.pdf
>>   
>>  Line numbers in this document are inaccurate, particularly in  
>> Section 2. I only use line numbers below with sections or pages  
>> where there are not two of the same.
>>   
>>  I did not review the state tables given there is another revision  
>> planned. Similarly I did not examine the schema, message examples or

>> wsdl in any detail but plan to. Why are these section in that order?
>>  Doesn't it make more sense to have the wsdl follow the schema?
>     *
>     Will discuss with editors.*
> 
>>  Section 2
>>  Change "and Transmits it" to "and transmits it".
>>  Change "that Sends" to "that sends"
> 
>     Fixed (in WD14 in editor's playpen)
> 
>>  Figure 2 is not legible.
> 
>     Working on it - but a little mystery makes life exciting  :-)
> 
>>  Section 3.1
>>  Line 222, page 11 "none" does not need to be in quotes.
> 
>     Will discuss with editors but I think it might confuse non-WSA
>     experts to not have it in quotes.
> 
>>  Line 309, page 13 the 2119 term optional is used and not in caps.
> 
>     Fixed
> 
>>  Section 3.2
>>  Line 347, page 14 the 2119 term may is used and is not in caps.
> 
>     Fixed
>      
>>  Section 3.3
>>  Line 459, page 16 check for a space between"[URI])" and "of".
> 
>     Fixed
> 
>>  Section 3.5
>>  Line 530, page 18 change "below" to "Section 3.6".
> 
>     Fixed
>      
>>  Section 3.6
>>  Line 558, page 19 reference to "Section Request Acknowledgment" is  
>> not consistent with references elsewhere in spec. Change "Section  
>> Request Acknowledgement" to "Section 3.5".
>>  Line 562, page 19 "piggy-backing does not need to be in quotes.
>>  Line 615, page 20 strike "Note:" as 2119 text is used in the text  
>> that follows it is more than a note.
> 
>     Fixed
>      
>>  Section 4
>>  The first two paragraphs of this section are practically duplicates

>> of each other. The first paragraph can be stricken by adding a one  
>> sentence description of WSRMRequired after the second sentence of  
>> the second paragraph. I can raise this as a new issue if that is
>     preferable.
>     *
>     Please do - since those paragraphs have been of some concern to
some* *
>     people I'd prefer to get agreement on it.*
> 
>>  Line 670, page 22 end sentence beginning on line 668 after
>     "detected".
>>  Line 676, page 22 change "defined in the version of WS-Addressing  
>> used in the message" to "defined in WS-Addressing" as we only  
>> reference a single version of Addressing.
>>  Line 676, page 22 change "current version" to "W3C Recommendation"
>>  Line 678, page 22 update to W3C Rec value, "http://www.w3.
>>  org/2005/08/addressing/fault
>     <http://www.w3.%0b%3e%20org/2005/08/addressing/fault>"
>     *
>     For consistency I did this but I think we need to revisit this
since* *
>     WSA now says that .../addressing/fault SHOULD only be used for
WSA* *
>     faults - and we're talking about RM faults in this section.  WSA*
*
>     suggests that other specs define their own URI - or am I reading*
*
>     this wrong?*
> 
>>  Line 680, page 22 change "section 4 of WS-Addressing" to "section 6

>> of WS-Addressing SOAP Binding".
>>  Line 694, page 22 update to W3C Rec value, "http://www.w3.
>>  org/2005/08/addressing/fault
>     <http://www.w3.%0b%3e%20org/2005/08/addressing/fault>"
> 
>     Fixed
>      
>>  Section 6
>>  Update [WS-Addressing] to point to Recommendation.
>>  W3C Recommendation, "Web Services Addressing 1.0 - Core", May 2006.
>>  http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-ws-addr-core-20060509/
>>   
>>  W3C Recommendation, "Web Services Addressing 1.0 - SOAP Binding",
>     May 2006.
>>  http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-ws-addr-soap-20060509/
>>   
>>  Update [WS-Policy] to point to W3C Member Submission.
>>  W3C Member Submission, "Web Services Policy Framework (WS-Policy),"
>>  April 2006.
>>  http://www.w3.org/Submission/2006/SUBM-WS-Policy-20060425/
>>   
>>  Update [WS-PolicyAttachment] to point to W3C Member Submission.
>>  W3C Member Submission, "Web Services Policy Attachment
>     (WS-PolicyAttachment)
>>  ," April 2006.
>>  http://www.w3.org/Submission/2006/SUBM-WS-PolicyAttachment-20060425/
> 
>     Fixed
>      
>>  Section C
>>  Line 1469 change "non-normative" to "normative".
> 
>     Fixed
>      
>>  Section E
>>  Line 1593 the TBD should be completed for PR.
>     *
>     Can you open an issue so we don't forget about this?*
> 
>>  WS-RM Policy WD9
>>  http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx/download.
>>  php/18454/wsrmp-1.1-spec-wd-09.pdf
>>   
>>  Section 4
>>  Update [WS-Policy] to point to W3C Member Submission.
>>  W3C Member Submission, "Web Services Policy Framework (WS-Policy),"
>>  April 2006.
>>  http://www.w3.org/Submission/WS-Policy/
>>  http://www.w3.org/Submission/2006/SUBM-WS-Policy-20060425/
>>   
>>  Update [WS-PolicyAttachment] to point to W3C Member Submission.
>>  W3C Member Submission,"Web Services Policy Attachment
>     (WS-PolicyAttachment)
>>  ," April 2006.
>>  http://www.w3.org/Submission/WS-PolicyAttachment/
>>  http://www.w3.org/Submission/2006/SUBM-WS-PolicyAttachment-20060425/
>>   
>>  Add reference to WSS 1.1 under [WSS] (as is done in WS-RM).
>>  Anthony Nadalin, Chris Kaler, Phillip Hallam-Baker, Ronald
>     Monzillo, eds. "
>>  OASIS Web Services Security:
>>  SOAP Message Security 1.1 (WS-Security 2004)", OASIS Standard  
>> 200602, February 2006.
> 
>     Fixed
>      
>>  Section A
>>  Line 253 the TBD should be completed for PR.
>     *
>     can you include this in the same new issue as the RM spec one?*
> 


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