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Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: Public Comments Form
While waiting for the HTML version, can we get started with creating the structure for the other artifacts. Following is what I think needs to happen. Editors, please chime in with your yes/no/wait signal before Robin starts cranking the wheels. The zip package (without the HTML version is at) - http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/19691/WSRM-CD4.zip The map of the links to their artifacts is: 1> http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/200608 ==> wsrm-1.1-rddl-cd-04.html 2> http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrmp/200608 ==> wsrmp-1.1-rddl-cd-04.html 3> http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/200608/wsrm-1.1-spec-cd-04.pdf ==> wsrm-1.1-spec-cd-04_diff.pdf 4> http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/200608/wsrm-1.1-schema-200608.xsd ==> wsrm-1.1-schema-200608.xsd 5> http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/200608/wsrm-1.1-wsdl-200608.wsdl ==> wsrm-1.1-wsdl-200608.wsdl 6> http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrmp/200608/wsrmp-1.1-spec-cd-04.pdf ==> wsrmp-1.1-spec-cd-04.pdf 7> http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrmp/200608/wsrmp-1.1-schema-200608.xs d ==> wsrmp-1.1-schema-200608.xsd One question this raises is - should we add links to the different formatted specifications from the RDDL? I think we should. -- Sanjay >-----Original Message----- >From: Robin Cover [mailto:robin@oasis-open.org] >Sent: Wednesday, Aug 16, 2006 1:35 AM >To: Patil, Sanjay >Cc: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org; Marc Goodner; >ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org >Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: Public Comments Form > >Typically, it takes some manual steps to create the proper >links when we install the spec components (prose documents, >schemas, WSDLs, RDDLs, etc). I'll be glad to help with this; >having the "clear map of URLs and the artifacts" as Sanjay >advises will help ensure a good result. > >None of the (currently) manual steps is so complicated >as to defy automation, and indeed, full automation >(with TC member upload) is the goal. > >As to the manner of implementing server redirects: in >an OASIS Staff meeting tomorrow (2006-08-16) I plan to >renew a request for support by OASIS IT programming staff >to set up better web server behaviors using Apache >directives -- e.g., for delivering a RDDL when a >namespace URI is dereferenced. The current implementation >nominally "works" but is clunky, and does not support the >kind of behavior (I think) we want to see in web browsers. >Hopefully I'll have good news on this topic soon. > >Robin Cover > >============== > >On Tue, 15 Aug 2006, Patil, Sanjay wrote: > >> Mary, >> >> I don't think that unpacking the zip file will resolve to the >> appropriate directory structure by itself. We may need some manual >> moving around of files and tweaking of URLs to ensure that - >> a> The two RDDL files are retrievable via a GET on their respective >> namespace URI >> b> The URLs (total of five if I am not mistaken) for the >specifications >> and ancillary artifacts referred to in the RDDL files are correctly >> working >> >> Editors, could you please provide a clear map of URLs and >the artifacts >> that are supposed to be sitting behind them. That might simplify the >> tasks of the OASIS staff a little bit. >> >> -- Sanjay >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Mary McRae [mailto:marypmcrae@gmail.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, Aug 15, 2006 16:14 PM >> To: 'Marc Goodner'; Patil, Sanjay; mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org >> Cc: ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org >> Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: Public Comments Form >> >> >> Marc's correct -- at this point in time, only staff can upload >> to docs.oasis-open.org. It's our goal to build an interface that will >> support member uploads, but that project's on hold until we >get past the >> email server restoration. >> >> All I should need is the single zip file which should resolve to >> the appropriate directory structure. >> >> Regards >> >> Mary >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Marc Goodner [mailto:mgoodner@microsoft.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 6:35 PM >> To: Patil, Sanjay; mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org >> Cc: ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org >> Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: Public Comments Form >> >> >> >> I agree. I believe we had always planned on posting the >> docs at the namespace location there anyway. I think the zip >is already >> prepared that could be used to stage it. Only OASIS staff can upload >> there is my understanding. >> >> >> >> From: Patil, Sanjay [mailto:sanjay.patil@sap.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 2:15 PM >> To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org >> Cc: ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org >> Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: Public Comments Form >> >> >> >> >> >> I think using the docs repository may be a better idea >> since that may also provide stable URI for hyperlinking from >RDDL files. >> Editors, do you agree? >> >> >> >> If we take the docs repository route, then I think we >> will need to work with the OASIS staff to get the document >area set up, >> etc. Could we get all of that done before this week's >conf-call (on 8/17 >> at 1 PM PST)? >> >> >> >> -- Sanjay >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Mary McRae [mailto:marypmcrae@gmail.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, Aug 15, 2006 14:00 PM >> To: Patil, Sanjay; mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org >> Cc: ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org >> Subject: [ws-rx-editors] RE: Public Comments >> Form >> >> Hi Sanjay, >> >> >> >> If I can unzip the package to the docs >> repository, I will be able to point to each of the formats >separately as >> well as the collection of ancillary files. This is the most >> user-friendly approach. If the files aren't to be uploaded to >> docs.oasis-open.org, I'd recommend one combined zip, >separate copies of >> the spec itself in each of the three formats, and a separate >zip of the >> ancillary files. That way the reviewers can download just the version >> they want to review along with the ancillary data. >> >> >> >> Mary >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Patil, Sanjay >> [mailto:sanjay.patil@sap.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 4:49 PM >> To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org >> Cc: ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org >> Subject: RE: Public Comments Form >> >> Mary, >> >> >> >> Would it be fine to provide you a single >> link that points to .zip package containing specifications >in the three >> formats along with RDDL files, and WSDL, schema files (WSDL >and schema >> artifacts are included in the specifications as well), etc. Or do you >> expect separate links for the three formats? >> >> >> >> Copying the Editors Team here to cut >> short the turnaround time. >> >> >> >> -- Sanjay >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Mary McRae >> [mailto:marypmcrae@gmail.com] >> Sent: Monday, Aug 14, 2006 19:07 PM >> To: Patil, Sanjay >> Subject: RE: Public Comments Form >> >> Excellent! I'll need a link to the >> meeting minutes where the decision is recorded (they can be >unofficial) >> as well as a link to the document(s) in 3 formats: editable source, >> (X)HTML, and PDF. You can send it to me, and please copy tc-admin so >> that it gets officially logged. >> >> >> >> Mary >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Patil, Sanjay >> [mailto:sanjay.patil@sap.com] >> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 9:55 PM >> To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org >> Subject: RE: Public Comments Form >> >> >> >> Thanks Mary! The background information >> is certainly helpful. >> >> >> >> Our TC is going to vote for PR in this >> week. After that, is just an email with link to the PR draft is >> sufficient to notify the OASIS Administrator (yourself in >this case I >> suppose)? >> >> >> >> -- Sanjay >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Mary McRae >> [mailto:marypmcrae@gmail.com] >> Sent: Monday, Aug 14, 2006 18:29 PM >> To: Patil, Sanjay >> Subject: RE: Public Comments Form >> >> Hi Sanjay, >> >> >> >> The comment process has a storied past >> :-) Originally an email list to which anyone could post, it became >> riddled with spam. The cure at the time (three years ago?) was to >> replace the list with a web form - the only "person" that >could actually >> post to the list was the form. Besides all of the problems associated >> with a form for trying to provide comments, spammers >eventually figured >> out how to mimic the form and spam the comment lists. This >problem had >> been going on for well over a year when we finally reverted >back to the >> email list, but this time requiring an authenticated >subscription. So, >> the posts that you see with the template information were >provided via >> the comment form which has now been disabled. The >instructions posted on >> the TC comment page do ask posters to provide some >information, which we >> can only hope that they'll follow. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Mary >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Patil, Sanjay >> [mailto:sanjay.patil@sap.com] >> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 6:55 PM >> To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org >> Subject: Public Comments Form >> >> >> >> Hi Mary, >> >> My understanding is that the only >> channel for receiving comments from the public during the PR >period is >> via the ws-rx-comment list. Is that right? >> >> I was browsing through the public >> comment lists of some other TCs and noticed that the comment emails >> include some template information at the top (submitter's name, >> organization, etc). I wonder whether that information was explicitly >> included by the submitter following some guideline, or it >was a result >> of some comments form usage. Please clarify. >> >> -- Sanjay >> >> >
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