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Subject: Re: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3


I'd like to thank Marc, Doug and Mary for all your efforts this weekend.

Can anyone give me a brief status update? I've seen a ton of useful 
messages but I haven't quite figured out what is still needed before the PR.

Thanks
Paul

Mary McRae wrote:
> We can also invent another URI to be used - like 
> docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/v1.1/wsrm-v1.1.doc etc. - that way even 
> if the date changes we're still talking about the latest version of the 
> 1.1 spec ...
>  
> m
> 
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     *From:* Marc Goodner [mailto:mgoodner@microsoft.com]
>     *Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 9:18 PM
>     *To:* Doug Davis; mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org
>     *Cc:* 'Mary McRae'; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org
>     *Subject:* RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
> 
>     So on 2, yeah we don’t have anything like that. I think the best we
>     can do is a link to the namespace as that could eventually contain
>     the previous/latest links there. The only other immediate
>     alternative I can think of would be the Public TC page.
> 
>      
> 
>     My vote for now would be to use the namespace. The reason is that if
>     we progress with the same namespace from this PR, and I’m pretty
>     hopeful we will, then the CS will be in that location with a link to
>     the previous CD for the same namespace. That seems to best satisfy
>     the intent.
> 
>      
> 
>     *From:* Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com]
>     *Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 5:38 PM
>     *To:* mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org
>     *Cc:* 'Mary McRae'; Marc Goodner; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org
>     *Subject:* RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
> 
>      
> 
> 
>     1. I'll remove the [insert...] since, as Marc said, I don't think we
>     have any.
>     2. The guideline says:
>     A bookmarkable, version-agnostic, generic URI serving as a URI alias
>     which is always associated with the latest/current specification
>     instance, thus having a changing referent; it serves to identify and
>     directly locate each successive published instance of a developing
>     specification, through time [Label: Latest Version]
>     Do we have a URL like that?  As far as I know all of our URLs have
>     dates in them.  Can Oasis assign us a non-dated set of URLs?
>     3. Done - as much as I could anyway :-)
> 
>     Latest zip is here:
>     http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx-editors/download.php/22331/CD05.zip
> 
>     (you guys are probably sick of me sending huge zip files)
>     Will replace the individual files in the CD5 folder once people 'ok'
>     it but I think I still need those static URLs mentioned in #2.
> 
>     thanks
>     -Doug
>     ______________________________________________________
>     STSM  |  Web Services Architect  |  IBM Software Group
>     (919) 254-6905  |  IBM T/L 444-6905  |  dug@us.ibm.com
> 
>     *"Mary McRae" <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>*
>     Sent by: Mary McRae <marypmcrae@gmail.com>
> 
>     02/11/2007 07:54 PM
> 
>     Please respond to
>     <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
> 
>     	
> 
>     To
> 
>     	
> 
>     Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, "'Marc Goodner'" <mgoodner@microsoft.com>
> 
>     cc
> 
>     	
> 
>     "'Mary McRae'" <marypmcrae@gmail.com>,
>     <ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org>
> 
>     Subject
> 
>     	
> 
>     RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
> 
>      
> 
>     	
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     Before you do that ;-)
>      
>     1. in all three spec files -- pay attention to the last para of the
>     Notices section. It refers to OASIS' new Trademark policy. In the
>     first line you'll see "[insert specific trademarked names,
>     abbreviations, etc. here]" - any terms that the TC believes should
>     be trademarked should be listed there and the boilerplate text removed.
>      
>     2. also, for "latest version" the intent is to use a URI that will
>     always bring up the most recent copy of the spec (see samples in
>     naming guidelines documents). Oops - just found another bad link on
>     the templates page.
>     http://docs.oasis-open.org/templates/OASISSpecificationTemplateGuidelines.html
>     section 3.4.3 or here:
>     http://docs.oasis-open.org/specGuidelines/namingGuidelines/metadata.html#specURIs
> 
>      
>     3. I apparently also messed up when I created the new templates for
>     OO (and possibly Word). There were supposed to be two more
>     categories on the cover page between Editors and Abstract:
>     Related Work
>     and
>     Declared XML Namespaces
>     (can be seen here:
>     http://docs.oasis-open.org/templates/OASISSpecificationTemplateV3.0.html)
> 
>      
>     No penalties for not including #3, but bonus points awarded if you
>     do ;-)
>      
>     I'm going to go watch the Grammys ... I think you guys have it under
>     control and we'll be all set for announcement tomorrow.
>      
>     m
> 
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>     *From:* Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com] *
>     Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 7:29 PM*
>     To:* Marc Goodner*
>     Cc:* Mary McRae; mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org;
>     ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org*
>     Subject:* RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
> 
> 
>     Actually, I was hoping you might be able to generate new HTML by
>     importing it into Word  :-)
> 
>     thanks
>     -Doug
>     ______________________________________________________
>     STSM  |  Web Services Architect  |  IBM Software Group
>     (919) 254-6905  |  IBM T/L 444-6905  |  dug@us.ibm.com
> 
>     *Marc Goodner <mgoodner@microsoft.com>*
> 
>     02/11/2007 07:22 PM
> 
>     	
> 
>      
> 
>     To
> 
>     	
> 
>     Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, "mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org"
>     <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
> 
>     cc
> 
>     	
> 
>     Mary McRae <marypmcrae@gmail.com>,
>     "ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org"
>     <ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org>
> 
>     Subject
> 
>     	
> 
>     RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
> 
>      
> 
>     	
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     Thanks for the quick turnaround on the doc Dug.  Mary, thanks a ton
>     for staying engaged with us over the weekend.
>      
>     A quick scan and this looks good to me. It looks like the correct
>     Notices now, but I defer to Mary on that.
>      
>     This one doesn’t have the HTML in it. We’re we just going to update
>     the previous generated HTML by hand?
>      *
>     From:* Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com] *
>     Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 3:17 PM*
>     To:* mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org*
>     Cc:* Mary McRae; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org*
>     Subject:* RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
>      
> 
>     ***********************
>     Warning: Your file, CD05.zip, contains more than 32 files after
>     decompression and cannot be scanned.
>     ***********************
> 
> 
> 
>     ok - let's give this one a try.
> 
> 
>     thanks
>     -Doug
>     ______________________________________________________
>     STSM  |  Web Services Architect  |  IBM Software Group
>     (919) 254-6905  |  IBM T/L 444-6905  |  dug@us.ibm.com
> 
>     *"Mary McRae" <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>*
>     Sent by: Mary McRae <marypmcrae@gmail.com>
> 
>     02/11/2007 06:05 PM
> 
>      
> 
>     Please respond to
>     <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
> 
>     	
> 
>      
> 
>     To
> 
>     	
> 
>     Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
> 
>     cc
> 
>     	
> 
>     <ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org>
> 
>     Subject
> 
>     	
> 
>     RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
> 
> 
> 
>      
> 
>      
> 
>     	
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     Almost - new Copyright line says:
>     Copyright © OASIS® 1993–2007. All Rights Reserved. OASIS trademark,
>     IPR and other policies apply.
> 
>     And then you'll need to make sure that it's the same in both the
>     spec and the schema/wsdl themselves.
> 
>     m
> 
>      
> 
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
>     *
>     From:* Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com] *
>     Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 5:03 PM*
>     To:* mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org*
>     Cc:* ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org*
>     Subject:* [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3*
>     Importance:* High
> 
> 
>     Mary,
>     am I correct in assuming that if I replace:
>     <!--
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>     ssurances of licenses to be made available, or the result of an
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>     implementors or users of this specification, can be obtained from
>     the OASIS Exe
>     cutive Director.
>     OASIS invites any interested party to bring to its attention any
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>     ents or patent applications, or other proprietary rights which may
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>     ogy that may be required to implement this specification. Please
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>     entation may be prepared, copied, published and distributed, in
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>     is document itself does not be modified in any way, such as by
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>     with just:
> 
>     <!-- Copyright (c) OASIS Open 2002-2007. All Rights Reserved. -->
> 
>     That'd we'd be ok?
> 
>     thanks
>     -Doug
>     ______________________________________________________
>     STSM  |  Web Services Architect  |  IBM Software Group
>     (919) 254-6905  |  IBM T/L 444-6905  |  dug@us.ibm.com
> 
>     *"Mary McRae" <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>*
>     Sent by: Mary McRae <marypmcrae@gmail.com>
> 
>     02/11/2007 04:47 PM
> 
>      
> 
>     Please respond to
>     <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
> 
>     	
> 
>      
> 
>      
> 
>     To
> 
>     	
> 
>     Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, <ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org>
> 
>     cc
> 
>     	
> 
>     Subject
> 
>     	
> 
>     RE: CD5.3
> 
> 
> 
>      
> 
>      
> 
>     	
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     Hi Doug,
> 
>     I haven't unzipped yet, but the schema / wsdl *do* need the Notices
>     section that's inserted as a comment at the beginning of the files
>     changed from the legacy IPR policy language to the 4-15-2005 policy
>     language ... I'm willing to go the extra mile to get this out by end
>     of day Monday since you're working hard to get everything accomplished.
> 
>     Mary
> 
>      
> 
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
>     *
>     From:* Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com] *
>     Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 10:26 AM*
>     To:* ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org*
>     Cc:* mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org*
>     Subject:* CD5.3*
>     Importance:* High
> 
>     ***********************
>     Warning: Your file, CD05.zip, contains more than 32 files after
>     decompression and cannot be scanned.
>     ***********************
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     Editors:
>     Here's CD5.3 with the changes Mary wanted.  I did not update the
>     schema/wsdl as that was just a suggestion and I wanted to keep the
>     diffs as small as possible.
>     Take a look and see if all looks well.
> 
> 
>     thanks
>     -Doug
>     ______________________________________________________
>     STSM  |  Web Services Architect  |  IBM Software Group
>     (919) 254-6905  |  IBM T/L 444-6905  |  dug@us.ibm.com
> 

-- 
Paul Fremantle
VP/Technology and Partnerships, WSO2
OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair

http://bloglines.com/blog/paulfremantle
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