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Subject: Re: [ws-rx] Draft teleconf minutes for 18 August 2005


Asjok:

I would argue that it is the minutes that are changing history if they 
are not accurate.

Duane

Ashok Malhotra wrote:

>Changing minutes can come close to rewriting history.
>In this case, it is possible that the scribe misheard or misrecorded
>Paul's words but, in the general case, someone can assert a different
>position to what was taken on the telcon.
>
>I recommend, therefore, that the minutes not be changed but an amendment
>record be added saying "X has requested the following changes to the 
>minutes ...".
>
>All the best, Ashok
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Paul Cotton [mailto:pcotton@microsoft.com] 
>>Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 5:12 AM
>>To: Gilbert Pilz
>>Cc: ws-rx@lists.oasis-open.org
>>Subject: RE: [ws-rx] Draft teleconf minutes for 18 August 2005
>>
>>Thanks for taking the minutes.  Here are some proposed changes:
>>
>>1.  Paul: David spoke directly about some discussions that 
>>took place during (prior?) the forming of the charter. I 
>>wouldn't have permitted this (missed some of this)
>>
>>Please replace this with:
>>
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>>>>Paul: David spoke directly about some discussions that took place
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>>>>
>>prior to the formation of the TC.  I want to make it clear 
>>that Microsoft never would have suggested that the charter 
>>could be changed since this is known to be against OASIS rules.
>>
>>2. >Paul: I'm going to vote against this. It will divert the 
>>TCs resources into a non-normative, non-exhaustive doc who's 
>>applicability to the work of the TC is unclear.
>> 
>>Please replace this with what I put into the Chat dialogue 
>>and which I read out:
>>
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>>>Paul: I am going to vote against this proposal since it 
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>>recommends the
>>TC work on a non-normative, undecided scope, non-exhaustive 
>>non-deliverable.
>>
>>3. >Paul: I won't disagree with you. I take it you are 
>>referring to XQuery? That effort started with a blank slate. 
>>This TC started with completed specs as well as interop 
>>scenarios. I think this effort is beyond the need for use cases.
>>
>>Please replace this with the following (I never used the word
>>"completed"):
>>
>>Paul: I won't disagree with you. I take it you are referring 
>>to XQuery?
>>That effort started with a blank slate. This TC started with 
>>well-defined contributed specs as well as interop scenarios. 
>>I think this effort is beyond the need for use cases.
>>
>>4. >Paul: That would be the URI for the RDL document? (yes). 
>>The RDL document would point you at the schema file?
>>
>>Change "RDL" to "RDDL" everywhere it occurs.
>>
>>/paulc
>>
>>Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
>>17 Eleanor Drive, Nepean, Ontario K2E 6A3
>>Tel: (613) 225-5445 Fax: (425) 936-7329 mailto:pcotton@microsoft.com
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>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Gilbert Pilz [mailto:Gilbert.Pilz@bea.com]
>>>Sent: August 18, 2005 8:40 PM
>>>To: ws-rx@lists.oasis-open.org
>>>Subject: [ws-rx] Draft teleconf minutes for 18 August 2005
>>>
>>>Attached is the draft of the minutes. Please notify if you 
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>>feel there
>>is
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>>>anything missing or incorrect and I'll fix it before I upload this
>>>document (probably on Monday). I'm sorry for the parts that 
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>>simply say
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>>>(back and forth) but when everyone talks at once it is very hard to
>>>catch what is being said.
>>>
>>>- g
>>>
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