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Subject: RE: [ws-rx] NEW ISSUE: What does 'anon' URI mean when used in AcksTo
- From: Doug Davis <dug@us.ibm.com>
- To: ws-rx@lists.oasis-open.org
- Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 18:47:00 -0400
Right - it talks about ReplyTo and FaultTo
but not "To". So, we can either assume that it is implicitly
talking about "To" which means wecan make the same assumption
for AcksTo. Or we can assume that silence on "To" implies
something else - like "its obvious". dunno. Whatever that
assumption is, we can probably carry it over to the AcksTo EPR :-)
thanks,
-Doug
"Yalcinalp, Umit"
<umit.yalcinalp@sap.com>
09/09/2005 06:24 PM
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Hmm. I am wondering whether we
are looking at different versions of the soap binding spec. The current
editor's copy [1] has the following statement in Section 3.5 (Anish was
suggesting adding basically a similar language to our spec in this thread).
{
When "http://www.w3.org/@@@@/@@/addressing/anonymous"
is specified as the address of the ReplyTo or FaultTo EPR, the underlying
SOAP protocol binding provides a channel to the specified endpoint. Any
underlying protocol binding supporting the SOAP request-response message
exchange pattern provides such a channel. For instance, the SOAP 1.2 HTTP
binding[SOAP
1.2 Part 2: Adjuncts]
puts the reply message in the HTTP response.
}
--umit
[1] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2004/ws/addressing/ws-addr-soap.html?content-type=text/html;%20charset=utf-8#soaphttp
From: Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Friday, Sep 09, 2005 1:57 PM
To: ws-rx@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [ws-rx] NEW ISSUE: What does 'anon' URI mean when used
in AcksTo
I saw no mention of what an anonymous wsa:To means in the soap binding
spec - but perhaps I missed it. If not, then they're silent on it.
thanks,
-Doug
"Yalcinalp, Umit"
<umit.yalcinalp@sap.com>
09/09/2005 04:43 PM
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Doug,
I think it is incorrect to characterize that WS-Addressing is silent. It
just defers the definition to the binding where it belongs to the extent
of how the definition is used for WS-Addressing purposes only.
I would be very much in favor of (a) or (b) for our own spec. If (b) can
not be coordinated with WS-Addressing wg (we need to do that rather fast
due to the timelines of WS-Addressing) , we should definitely explore (a).
Cheers,
--umit
From: Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Friday, Sep 09, 2005 11:42 AM
To: ws-rx@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [ws-rx] NEW ISSUE: What does 'anon' URI mean when used
in AcksTo
Is WS-Addressing's silence on what it means to use the anonymous IRI in
the wsa:To header mean that it should be obvious to the reader? If
so, then perhaps we can take the same approach to its use in other places
that WS-Addressing is silent as well - for example, AcksTo - and say nothing
and assume its obvious to the reader.
thanks
-Doug
Anish Karmarkar <Anish.Karmarkar@oracle.com> wrote on 09/09/2005
02:20:12 AM:
> As discussed on the call today, I'm raising an issue about the meaning
> of 'anon' URI when used in AcksTo URI.
>
> Title:
>
> What does 'anon' URI mean when used in AcksTo EPR?
>
> Description:
>
> WS-Addressing Core [1], section 2.1 says the following about 'anon':
>
> "Some endpoints cannot be located with a meaningful IRI; this
URI is
> used to allow such endpoints to send and receive messages. The precise
> meaning of this URI is defined by the binding of Addressing to a
> specific protocol."
>
> WS-Addressing SOAP binding [2] defines what the 'anon' address means
> when used with ReplyTo and FaultTo in SOAP and SOAP/HTTP binding.
It
> does not say anything about what it means when used in other headers
> such as AcksTo.
>
> Justification:
>
> WSRM defines AcksTo element of type EndpointReferenceType and allows
> 'anon' URI for the address. But the meaning of such an anon address
is
> not defined anywhere.
>
> Target:
>
> core, soap
>
> Type:
>
> design
>
> Proposal:
>
> This can be resolved by:
>
> a) Adding a stmt similar to WS-Addressing SOAP binding. Something
like:
>
> "When "http://www.w3.org/2005/08/addressing/anonymous"
is specified as
> the address of the wsrm:AcksTo EPR, the underlying SOAP protocol binding
> provides a channel to the specified endpoint. Any underlying protocol
> binding supporting the SOAP request-response message exchange pattern
> provides such a channel. For instance, the SOAP 1.2 HTTP binding[SOAP
> 1.2 Part 2: Adjuncts] puts the reply message in the HTTP response."
>
> OR
>
> b) we could ask the WS-Addressing WG to fix their SOAP binding to
> include not just ReplyTo and FaultTo EPRs but any EPR when used in
the
> context of SOAP/HTTP binding.
>
> I prefer that we do (b). If they refuse, we can do (a)
>
> Related issues:
> i012
>
>
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