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Subject: RE: [ws-rx] Issue 060 ammendment to current proposal


Yeah. What he said . . . .
 
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From: Jacques Durand [mailto:JDurand@us.fujitsu.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 5:00 PM
To: Gilbert Pilz; Patil, Sanjay; ws-rx@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [ws-rx] Issue 060 ammendment to current proposal

Adding to the wordsmithing, I think the numbering must be scoped by the sequence, yet without the AS knowing it.

it might help to clearly separate these two requirements:

(1) numbers for a sequence must be assigned by RMS in an incremental way (by increment of 1) over time,

(2) the numbering must reflect the sending order from AS. (I anticipate here on my most recent "new issue" which I expect will not be controversial)

 

How about the Invariant:

The RM Source MUST assign message numbers (defined below) to each message to be delivered reliably beginning at 1 for a new sequence and increasing by exactly 1 for the next assignment within the sequence. Within a sequence, these numbers MUST be assigned in the same order in which messages are sent by the Application Source.

 

Other parts of my amendment (L78, L168, L454) are intended to align with removal of "reliable message" and usage of "reliable delivery" instead.

 

Jacques

 


From: Gilbert Pilz [mailto:Gilbert.Pilz@bea.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 1:19 PM
To: Patil, Sanjay; ws-rx@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [ws-rx] Issue 060 ammendment to current proposal

 

This seems to be both redundant and potentially confusing. At this point in the document we are referring to "the protocol" in an abstract sense. The introductory sentence states "During the lifetime of the protocol . . ". A Sequence is a lower level construct for managing the lifetime of "the protocol". The AS and AD need not (and possibly "should not") have any knowledge of the Sequence.

 

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From: Patil, Sanjay [mailto:sanjay.patil@sap.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 12:52 PM
To: Gilbert Pilz; ws-rx@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [ws-rx] Issue 060 ammendment to current proposal

 

On a side note, I think the Sequence scoping of the message numbers should be clear from this invariant.

 

How about:

Replace "For each message that is to be delivered reliably ..."

with "In a Sequence, for each message that is to be delivered reliably ..."

 

Thanks,

Sanjay

 


From: Gilbert Pilz [mailto:Gilbert.Pilz@bea.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Dec 07, 2005 12:39 PM
To: ws-rx@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [ws-rx] Issue 060 ammendment to current proposal

The motion currently on the table is to change first invariant under section 2.3 to:

 

The RM Source MUST assign each message to be delivered reliably a message number (defined below) beginning at 1 and increasing by exactly 1 for each subsequent message to be delivered reliably.

 

In http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx/email/archives/200511/msg00152.html Chris made the following suggestion for the same text.

 

The RM Source MUST assign each reliable message in the Sequence a message number (defined below) beginning at 1 for the first message sent by the Application Source and increasing by exactly 1 for each subsequent reliable message sent by the Application Source.

 

The intent is to tighten up the contract between the AS and RMS with regards to message numbering.

 

I would like to combine the two proposals into the following:

 

For each message that is to be delivered reliably, the RM Source MUST assign a message number (defined below) beginning at 1 for the first message sent by the Application Source and increasing by exactly 1 for each subsequent message sent by the Application Source.

 

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