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Subject: Re: [ws-rx] Re: Result of Voting on WS-ReliableMessaging 1.1 as OASISStandard]


Jeff

I was merely reminding people of the options available to the TC. I 
neither wished to, nor did imply any one of the three outcomes.

Paul

Jeff Mischkinsky wrote:
> hi,
>   I assume from this somewhat cryptic email, that the TC will soon be 
> taking a special majority vote on whether to "override" the NO comment 
> and forge ahead.
> 
>   Oracle has looked at the no comment in some detail.
> 
>   From our analysis we find ourselves in agreement that relying upon the 
> Microsoft OSP is not suitable for complying with the requirements of the 
> OASIS IPR policy. The OASIS IPR Policy is stronger with respect to:
>    specification coverage - the obligation is for the entire 
> specification, not just the mandatory parts;
>    defensive suspension;
>    re-distribution requirements;
>    and possibly some other points as well
> 
> BUT we believe that this is NOT relevant to this discussion and our 
> ultimate vote.
> 
> Under the OASIS IPR policy, which all members of the TC are legally 
> bound to by the OASIS membership agreement, once the 60 day 
> participation requirement is met, TC members are legally obligated to 
> grant licenses (or a suitable covenant not to sue/non-assert) to 
> implementers of the approved specification.
> 
> In this case Microsoft have said they will do that twice, once by 
> becoming and maintaining TC membership, and second in their IPR 
> declaration. We assume that all the TC member companies will do the 
> right thing when the time comes for implementers to seek licenses for 
> implementation of the WS-RX TC's specifications.
> 
> So from Oracle's perspective, the only issuee that could arise is if 
> Microsoft were to state that they were relying on the OSP as the basis 
> for compliance.
> 
> cheers,
>   jeff
> 
> 
> On Jun 04, 2007, at 8:28 AM, Paul Fremantle wrote:
> 
>> Folks
>>
>> In preparation for this week's call can I propose you read the 
>> following text from the TC procedures:
>>
>> However, if negative votes amounting to less than 15 percent of the 
>> voting membership have been cast, the TC shall be notified of the 
>> negative votes, after which the TC shall have 30 days to take one of 
>> the following actions by Resolution of a Special Majority Vote: (a) 
>> request the TC Administrator to approve the specification as submitted 
>> despite the negative votes; (b) withdraw the submission entirely; or 
>> (c) submit an amended specification, in which case the amended 
>> submission shall be considered as if it were a new submission, except 
>> that information regarding previous votes and any disposition of 
>> comments received in previous votes shall accompany the amended 
>> submission.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: [ws-rx] Result of Voting on WS-ReliableMessaging 1.1 as OASIS 
>> Standard
>> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 10:35:44 -0400
>> From: Mary McRae <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
>> Reply-To: <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
>> Organization: OASIS
>> To: <members@lists.oasis-open.org>,    <tc-announce@lists.oasis-open.org>
>> CC: 'wsrx' <ws-rx@lists.oasis-open.org>
>>
>> OASIS members:
>>
>> The ballots for approval of WS-ReliableMessaging 1.1 (announced at 
>> [1]) has
>> closed.  There were sufficient affirmative votes to approve the 
>> specification.
>> However, because there was a negative vote, the Web Services Reliable 
>> Exchange
>> (WS-RX) Technical Committee must decide how to proceed, as provided in 
>> the OASIS
>> TC Process, at http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process.php#3.4 A 
>> further
>> announcement will be made to this list regarding their disposition of 
>> the vote.
>>
>> The full text of the comment on the "no" vote can be seen at:
>> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/voting/vote_details.php?id=1291&vot 
>>
>> er_id=7570
>>
>> Mary
>>
>> [1] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/tc-announce/200705/msg00000.html
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------
>> Mary P McRae
>> Manager of TC Administration, OASIS
>> email: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org
>> web: www.oasis-open.org
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Paul Fremantle
>> Co-Founder and VP of Technical Sales, WSO2
>> OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair
>>
>> Office: +1 646 290 8050
>> Cell: +44 798 447 4618
>>
>> blog: http://pzf.fremantle.org
>> paul@wso2.com
>>
>> "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com
> 
> -- 
> Jeff Mischkinsky                              jeff.mischkinsky@oracle.com
> Director, Oracle Fusion Middleware and Web Services Standards    
> +1(650)506-1975
> Consulting Member Technical Staff                       500 Oracle 
> Parkway, M/S 4OP9
> Oracle                                Redwood Shores, CA 94065
> 
> 
> 

-- 
Paul Fremantle
Co-Founder and VP of Technical Sales, WSO2
OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair

Office: +1 646 290 8050
Cell: +44 798 447 4618

blog: http://pzf.fremantle.org
paul@wso2.com

"Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com


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