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Subject: Re: [ws-rx] Prelim minutes of 11/29 Teleconference
I would like to point out that the header for the discussion on errata status somehow was removed before I sent out the prelim minutes I will insert a new header after Marc G action item before posting to the web site. Tom Rutt Tom Rutt wrote: > Prelim minutes attached. > > Tom Rutt > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *Prelim Minutes of OASIS WS-RX Teleconference* > > *Nov 29, 2007* > > * * > > Start Time:4:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time > > ?? acted as chair. > > Textual Conventions > > Ø Action Item > > Motion > > § Resolution > > > 1 Roll Call > > From Kavi:** > > * * > > * * > > * * > > meeting is quorate > > Tom Rutt agreed to take minutes. > > > 2 Agenda Approval > > Dial-in details: Thanks to Microsoft > > (866) 500-6738 > > (203) 480-8000 > > PC: 2365501 > > IRC/Q Mgmt (thanks to DougD): http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/wsrx > > Agenda > > 1. Roll Call > > 2. Review of Agenda > > 3. Approval of Minutes from Nov 1 2007 > > 4. New Issues > > 5. Update on SX Schedule > > 6. Status of Errata Doc from Editors > > 8. Ongoing TC Schedule > > 9. Conference call sponsorship > > 10. AOB > > No changes > > > 3 Approval of the Previous Minutes; > > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx/download.php/26082/MinutesWSRX-110107.htm > > > Tom moved to approve Nov 1 minutes, Colleen seconded. > > § No objections, minutes of Nov 1, 2007 approved. > > > 4 AI Review > > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx/members/action_items.php > > > None > > > 5 New Issues > > None > > > 6 Update on SX Schedule - Marc Goodner > > Marc G: No cause for alarm. TC is progressing and has closed on the > 1.5 policy references issues. CDs expected in January. Editors drafts > some time in December. Hoping for January Public Review. > > Action: Marc G to post urls for SX next version editor’s Drafts when > available. Status of Errata Doc from Editors > > * * > > Dug: Mary has the erratas in her hands, and is ready to post a vote. I > send a mail on a problem in updating wsdl files. > > All, > > There's a bit of a problem with the WSDL files we updated for the > errata (RM and MC). Since the WSDL files have been changed, per the > OASIS rules, we can not simply override the existing WSDL file. We > must create a new WSDL file - new w.r.t. its name but luckily we don't > need to update any namespaces. So, it would seem that one option will > be to create a new URL/file at something like: > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/200702/wsrm-1.1-wsdl-200702e.wsdl > > And we'd then need to update links in the specs (and mention it in the > errata). > > If we had thought about this problem before we could have used the > "Latest URL" pattern (like we do for the specs themselves) and used > something like: > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/v1.1/wsrm.wsdl > > in the spec - and just made this URL point to the 'e' version of the > wsdl. So, I guess that's our 2nd option - change the specs to use a > "Latest URL" pattern. > > Thoughts, comments, other ideas...? > > thanks > > -Doug > > Dug: the first alternative is the easiest on everyone. > > Marc G: If you use the latest url, you also must clarify which one is > used for this document. > > Chris F: what about the RDDL document? It should also be changed to > update to the errata. The fact that it is a different file name can be > handled by the errata. The reason for the rule is that when they > publish and oasis standard it is all there and it will not change > (i.e., permanent reference). Having a different file name is no bid deal. > > Chris F: you should not write code that downloads the wsdl at run time. > > Paul F: we should bear this “latest” scheme in mind when preparing the > next version. Not needed for errata. > > Chris F: I move that we add a suffix to the file name for the wsdl, > seconded by Marc G. > > Anish: I suggest the suffix be “e1”. > > No objection to amendment by Anish > > No objection to amended motion. Motion carries > > Action: Doug D will send a notice to Mary, with a new addition to errata. > > Tom: Can we approve a new CD of errata with the agreed change? > > Paul: the vote on ballot was agree to CD, agree not substantive change, > > MrGoodner: I move seconded by Tom. > > a) Adopt the set of proposed Errata documents > (http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx/download.php/25906/WSRX%20OS01e1.zip) > <http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx/download.php/25906/WSRX%20OS01e1.zip%29> > as a Committee Draft modified so the wsdl is renamed > wsrm-1.1-wsdl-200702e1.wsdl and reflected in the documents, and > > (b) Confirm that the proposed corrections do not constitute a > Substantive Change, and > > (c) Submit the proposed corrections for a 15-day public review > > No objection, full majority accepted motion on Ammended Errata > progression. > > > 1 Ongoing TC Schedule > > Next meeting Jan 17^th . > > Paul F: Our goal is to produce CDs for a next version of the document. > We should wait until SC goes to vote, before we go to vote. > > Marc G: we have to do a committee draft first. We should try to keep > SX and RX process in parallel. It should proceed smoothly. > > Paul F: I want to avoid mutual inter-reference problems. > > Colleen: The TX TC has similar situation, they have established a > parallel timeline. > > *Colleen:* > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-tx/download.php/26120/wstx-1.2-timeline.doc > > *PaulFremantle1:* > > 30 Jan 2008: Editors to complete final CD drafts, referring to > anticipated SX 1.4 PR drafts. > > Feb 7: Ballot to approve CD drafts as PR drafts. Full majority vote > required. > > Feb 21 Apr 21: 60 day public review. These dateS, and all subsequent > dates will be gated by SX since we cannot progress ahead of SX. > > May 1: Discuss any PR feedback. Editors prepare CS drafts. > > May 7. Begin ballots to approve committee spec and to submit for OASIS > membership approval > > May 14 Complete ballot. Submit committee specs to OASIS for OASIS > standard ballot. > > June 1: OASIS to inform membership of forthcoming ballot > > June 16: Membership ballot starts. > > June 30. Voting period ends. All being well, we have an OASIS standard. > > Chris F: the changes they made are self referential within a TC. But > we are dealing with two or three TCs. If we want the OASIS standard > reference we need to wait until they have a committee spec. > > Paul F: we can due Public review based on their public review. Then we > can do a CS based on their CS. > > Doug D: what is actually changing in the spec? > > Paul F: we need to take this to the mailing list to evaluate, but we > should aim for a similar target schedule. A committee draft in January > should be our first target. > > Paul F: looking at calendar we need to schedule a meeting in February. > > Doug D: do we need to do something about errata after 15 day review > period? > > Paul F: we can do a KAVI ballot after the Public review period. > > Action: Paul F to post KAVI electronic ballot if there are no negative > Public Review comments. > > Paul F: next day for call is Feb 14, however can we change to Feb 21. > > Colleen: why not Feb 7. > > Paul F: we should schedule calls for both Feb 7 and Feb 21. > > > 2 Conference call sponsorship > > WS02 will sponsor Jan call. > > IBM will sponsor for Feb 7 call. > > Oracle will sponsor Feb 21 call. > > > 3 AOB > > Ian Jones: People want to be able to use WS-RM spec with > intermediaries within EB XML. Any help will be appreciated > > Paul F: I would be interested in discussing that on the email list, > Ian should send note to list. > > Meeting adjourned at 4:40 PM EDT > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that > generates this mail. You may a link to this group and all your TCs in OASIS > at: > https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php -- ---------------------------------------------------- Tom Rutt email: tom@coastin.com; trutt@us.fujitsu.com Tel: +1 732 801 5744 Fax: +1 732 774 5133
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