RE: [ws-rx] Prelim minutes of 11/29 Teleconference

["Patil, Sanjay" <sanjay.patil@sap.com>]

The next call should be on Jan 17th (not Jan 14th).

Belated regrets for having missed today's call.

-- Sanjay 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Rutt [mailto:tom@coastin.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, Nov 29, 2007 14:36 PM
> To: tom@coastin.com
> Cc: wsrx
> Subject: Re: [ws-rx] Prelim minutes of 11/29 Teleconference
> 
> the first sentence of the next call section states the next 
> meeting is 
> Jan 14.
> 
> The remainder of discussion was on the feb calls.
> 
> We will meet on Jan 14, it is already scheduled.
> 
> Tom
> 
> Tom Rutt wrote:
> > Prelim minutes attached.
> >
> > Tom Rutt
> >
> >
> > 
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> >
> > *Prelim Minutes of OASIS WS-RX Teleconference*
> >
> > *Nov 29, 2007*
> >
> > * *
> >
> > Start Time:4:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time
> >
> > ?? acted as chair.
> >
> > Textual Conventions
> >
> > Ø Action Item
> >
> > Motion
> >
> > § Resolution
> >
> >
> >   1 Roll Call
> >
> > From Kavi:**
> >
> > * *
> >
> > * *
> >
> > * *
> >
> > meeting is quorate
> >
> > Tom Rutt agreed to take minutes.
> >
> >
> >   2 Agenda Approval
> >
> > Dial-in details: Thanks to Microsoft
> >
> > (866) 500-6738
> >
> > (203) 480-8000
> >
> > PC: 2365501
> >
> > IRC/Q Mgmt (thanks to DougD): 
> http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/wsrx
> >
> > Agenda
> >
> > 1. Roll Call
> >
> > 2. Review of Agenda
> >
> > 3. Approval of Minutes from Nov 1 2007
> >
> > 4. New Issues
> >
> > 5. Update on SX Schedule
> >
> > 6. Status of Errata Doc from Editors
> >
> > 8. Ongoing TC Schedule
> >
> > 9. Conference call sponsorship
> >
> > 10. AOB
> >
> > No changes
> >
> >
> >   3 Approval of the Previous Minutes;
> >
> > 
> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx/download.ph
> p/26082/MinutesWSRX-110107.htm 
> >
> >
> > Tom moved to approve Nov 1 minutes, Colleen seconded.
> >
> > § No objections, minutes of Nov 1, 2007 approved.
> >
> >
> >   4 AI Review
> >
> > 
> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx/members/act
> ion_items.php 
> >
> >
> > None
> >
> >
> >   5 New Issues
> >
> > None
> >
> >
> >   6 Update on SX Schedule - Marc Goodner
> >
> > Marc G: No cause for alarm. TC is progressing and has closed on the 
> > 1.5 policy references issues. CDs expected in January. 
> Editors drafts 
> > some time in December. Hoping for January Public Review.
> >
> > Action: Marc G to post urls for SX next version editor's 
> Drafts when 
> > available. Status of Errata Doc from Editors
> >
> > * *
> >
> > Dug: Mary has the erratas in her hands, and is ready to 
> post a vote. I 
> > send a mail on a problem in updating wsdl files.
> >
> > All,
> >
> > There's a bit of a problem with the WSDL files we updated for the 
> > errata (RM and MC). Since the WSDL files have been changed, per the 
> > OASIS rules, we can not simply override the existing WSDL file. We 
> > must create a new WSDL file - new w.r.t. its name but 
> luckily we don't 
> > need to update any namespaces. So, it would seem that one 
> option will 
> > be to create a new URL/file at something like:
> >
> > 
> http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/200702/wsrm-1.1-wsdl-200
> 702e.wsdl
> >
> > And we'd then need to update links in the specs (and 
> mention it in the 
> > errata).
> >
> > If we had thought about this problem before we could have used the 
> > "Latest URL" pattern (like we do for the specs themselves) and used 
> > something like:
> >
> > http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/v1.1/wsrm.wsdl
> >
> > in the spec - and just made this URL point to the 'e' 
> version of the 
> > wsdl. So, I guess that's our 2nd option - change the specs to use a 
> > "Latest URL" pattern.
> >
> > Thoughts, comments, other ideas...?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > -Doug
> >
> > Dug: the first alternative is the easiest on everyone.
> >
> > Marc G: If you use the latest url, you also must clarify 
> which one is 
> > used for this document.
> >
> > Chris F: what about the RDDL document? It should also be changed to 
> > update to the errata. The fact that it is a different file 
> name can be 
> > handled by the errata. The reason for the rule is that when they 
> > publish and oasis standard it is all there and it will not change 
> > (i.e., permanent reference). Having a different file name 
> is no bid deal.
> >
> > Chris F: you should not write code that downloads the wsdl 
> at run time.
> >
> > Paul F: we should bear this "latest" scheme in mind when 
> preparing the 
> > next version. Not needed for errata.
> >
> > Chris F: I move that we add a suffix to the file name for the wsdl, 
> > seconded by Marc G.
> >
> > Anish: I suggest the suffix be "e1".
> >
> > No objection to amendment by Anish
> >
> > No objection to amended motion. Motion carries
> >
> > Action: Doug D will send a notice to Mary, with a new 
> addition to errata.
> >
> > Tom: Can we approve a new CD of errata with the agreed change?
> >
> > Paul: the vote on ballot was agree to CD, agree not 
> substantive change,
> >
> > MrGoodner: I move seconded by Tom.
> >
> > a) Adopt the set of proposed Errata documents 
> > 
> (http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx/download.p
> hp/25906/WSRX%20OS01e1.zip) 
> > 
> <http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx/download.p
> hp/25906/WSRX%20OS01e1.zip%29> 
> > as a Committee Draft modified so the wsdl is renamed 
> > wsrm-1.1-wsdl-200702e1.wsdl and reflected in the documents, and
> >
> > (b) Confirm that the proposed corrections do not constitute a 
> > Substantive Change, and
> >
> > (c) Submit the proposed corrections for a 15-day public review
> >
> > No objection, full majority accepted motion on Ammended Errata 
> > progression.
> >
> >
> >   1 Ongoing TC Schedule
> >
> > Next meeting Jan 17^th .
> >
> > Paul F: Our goal is to produce CDs for a next version of 
> the document. 
> > We should wait until SC goes to vote, before we go to vote.
> >
> > Marc G: we have to do a committee draft first. We should 
> try to keep 
> > SX and RX process in parallel. It should proceed smoothly.
> >
> > Paul F: I want to avoid mutual inter-reference problems.
> >
> > Colleen: The TX TC has similar situation, they have established a 
> > parallel timeline.
> >
> > *Colleen:* 
> > 
> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-tx/download.ph
> p/26120/wstx-1.2-timeline.doc
> >
> > *PaulFremantle1:*
> >
> > 30 Jan 2008: Editors to complete final CD drafts, referring to 
> > anticipated SX 1.4 PR drafts.
> >
> > Feb 7: Ballot to approve CD drafts as PR drafts. Full majority vote 
> > required.
> >
> > Feb 21 Apr 21: 60 day public review. These dateS, and all 
> subsequent 
> > dates will be gated by SX since we cannot progress ahead of SX.
> >
> > May 1: Discuss any PR feedback. Editors prepare CS drafts.
> >
> > May 7. Begin ballots to approve committee spec and to 
> submit for OASIS 
> > membership approval
> >
> > May 14 Complete ballot. Submit committee specs to OASIS for OASIS 
> > standard ballot.
> >
> > June 1: OASIS to inform membership of forthcoming ballot
> >
> > June 16: Membership ballot starts.
> >
> > June 30. Voting period ends. All being well, we have an 
> OASIS standard.
> >
> > Chris F: the changes they made are self referential within 
> a TC. But 
> > we are dealing with two or three TCs. If we want the OASIS standard 
> > reference we need to wait until they have a committee spec.
> >
> > Paul F: we can due Public review based on their public 
> review. Then we 
> > can do a CS based on their CS.
> >
> > Doug D: what is actually changing in the spec?
> >
> > Paul F: we need to take this to the mailing list to 
> evaluate, but we 
> > should aim for a similar target schedule. A committee draft 
> in January 
> > should be our first target.
> >
> > Paul F: looking at calendar we need to schedule a meeting 
> in February.
> >
> > Doug D: do we need to do something about errata after 15 day review 
> > period?
> >
> > Paul F: we can do a KAVI ballot after the Public review period.
> >
> > Action: Paul F to post KAVI electronic ballot if there are 
> no negative 
> > Public Review comments.
> >
> > Paul F: next day for call is Feb 14, however can we change 
> to Feb 21.
> >
> > Colleen: why not Feb 7.
> >
> > Paul F: we should schedule calls for both Feb 7 and Feb 21.
> >
> >
> >   2 Conference call sponsorship
> >
> > WS02 will sponsor Jan call.
> >
> > IBM will sponsor for Feb 7 call.
> >
> > Oracle will sponsor Feb 21 call.
> >
> >
> >   3 AOB
> >
> > Ian Jones: People want to be able to use WS-RM spec with 
> > intermediaries within EB XML. Any help will be appreciated
> >
> > Paul F: I would be interested in discussing that on the email list, 
> > Ian should send note to list.
> >
> > Meeting adjourned at 4:40 PM EDT
> >
> > 
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