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Subject: Re: [ws-rx] Ballots wrong - need date
Mary Now I'm getting really frustrated. Please point me to the place in the rules where it states we NEED a "timeout" date for the DCR vote? You specified this - I assumed it was a standard part of the process, but I don't see where it states we NEED it. If it is not part of the OASIS TC process as documented here: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process.php then perhaps you could start the ballot as originally requested over two week. If it is then I will leave it to Sanjay to deal with during my vacation. Paul Mary McRae wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I think the TC needs a new motion. The existing motion was to request > the TC Administrator to start a ballot. That motion was acted upon, with > the result that the request was rejected by the TC Administrator since > it did not contain the requisite information. > > The TC is now free to make a new motion - with or without the > cross-references to the SX specs. If the SX cross-references are to be > included, the motion must include the stage and projected completion date. > > Best regards, > > Mary > > On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 7:43 AM, Paul Fremantle <paul@wso2.com > <mailto:paul@wso2.com>> wrote: > > I think we are getting mixed messages here. > > We have a motion to start a TC ballot asap. The initial plan was to > tie the RX CS to the SX CS, and go forward. > > Then Mary suggested we do NOT tie the RX CS to the SX CS and then do > our OASIS Standard vote with a DCR to the SX OASIS standard vote. > > Microsoft pushed back against Mary's proposal, and asked us to > continue with the initial plan. The vote requires a rough date for > SX CS. > > Now the latest email you have said you cannot give us a potential > date for the SX CS vote and we should go into limbo until September. > As far as I'm concerned that is NOT an option - it doesn't meet the > requirements of the motion which was to ask OASIS to start the vote. > > We can EITHER: > 1) Pick a date and go ahead with the plan of record. Based on your > data I would propose a date such as enf-November to give the SX TC > plenty of time. > > 2) Decouple our CS vote from SX as proposed by Mary. > > I have my own preferences, but they aren't really relevant. The > decision process is this: > > * We have a voted, approved motion from the last call to go ahead > with option 1. So unless there is unanimous consent to change our > plan of record, we need to do option 1. Mary has asked for a date to > do this, so therefore we need to come up with a date. Unless there > is objection I will go forward with November 30th. > * Alternatively, if there is a change of heart and we get unanimous > consent to go forwards with option 2, then we can go back to Mary > and get her to re-instate the ballot. > > I am going on vacation as of tonight, so I'm hereby asking Sanjay to > take over managing this process. > > Regards, > Paul > > > Monica Martin wrote: > > Paul, we may have a clearer picture of WS-SX progress in > mid-late September (next meeting 11 September). WS-SX Public > Review ends 23 September, placing any CS vote in ~October 2008. > [1] We should consider an optimal approach to keep WS-SX, WS-TX > and WS-RX fairly aligned to enter Member Vote. I suggest a > checkpoint in September to consider a timeout horizon and > whether a fallback plan is needed (such as whether to promote > WS-SX set references to the current CDs if CS isn't achieved). > > Thanks. mo > > [1] SX Public Review notice: > http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/tc-announce/200807/msg00011.html > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Fremantle [mailto:paul@wso2.com <mailto:paul@wso2.com>] > Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 7:38 AM > To: wsrx > Subject: [ws-rx] Ballots wrong - need date > > It seems the ballots started didn't agree with the TC's motion, > so Mary > is restarting them. > > However, we need a "timeout" date. If the SX specs don't make it > to TC > by that date, then the RX specs are promoted using references to the > current CD. > > I also propose we lengthen the ballot length from 2 weeks to 3 given > that a lot of people are off on vacation in August. > > Please can someone on the SX TC let us know their proposed schedule? > > Paul > -- > Paul Fremantle > CTO and Co-Founder, WSO2 > OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair > VP, Apache Synapse > > Office: +44 844 484 8143 > Cell: +44 798 447 4618 > > blog: http://pzf.fremantle.org > paul@wso2.com <mailto:paul@wso2.com> > > "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com > <http://www.wso2.com> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that > generates this mail. 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Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at: > https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php > > > > -- > Paul Fremantle > CTO and Co-Founder, WSO2 > OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair > VP, Apache Synapse > > Office: +44 844 484 8143 > Cell: +44 798 447 4618 > > blog: http://pzf.fremantle.org > paul@wso2.com <mailto:paul@wso2.com> > > "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com > <http://www.wso2.com> > > > > > -- > Mary P McRae > Manager of TC Administration, OASIS > mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org <mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org> > voip: 603.232.9090 > -- Paul Fremantle CTO and Co-Founder, WSO2 OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair VP, Apache Synapse Office: +44 844 484 8143 Cell: +44 798 447 4618 blog: http://pzf.fremantle.org paul@wso2.com "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com
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