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Subject: RE: [ws-tx-editors] Fw: Editors instructions
Issue 15 related to namespace URIs and we adopted Colleen's proposal.
Andy's question was regarding how Spec A should reference Spec B. I think
we agree that a reference to Spec A should be a reference to the primary
namespace used by Spec A, which will (in the fullness of time) resolve to a
RDDL doc which itself links to the WSDL, schema and spec.
Regards,
Ian Robinson
STSM, WebSphere Messaging and Transactions Architect
IBM Hursley Lab, UK
ian_robinson@uk.ibm.com
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Didn’t the TC already agree to a convention in relation to issue 15? From
the minutes at [1] I thought we agreed to accept my proposal referenced in
the minutes:
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Excerpt from the minutes:
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Ian: Colleen's proposal is to keep the hyphen. It is at
http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-tx/200602/msg00007.html
Eric: The proposal is to keep the hyphen.
Do we have consensus? Is there any objection to keeping the hyphen?
Ram Jeyaraman: There are a couple of documents which need reflect the
resolution of this issue.
Colleen: We can follow what other committees like RX are doing. There is a
link to what they are doing, in my proposal.
Ian: We also need to supply values for the yyyy/mm in the namespace. We
should use 2006/03, based on the date we expect the CD or CDs to be
approved. It is not a critical date; we just need to establish it.
Ian: Move to adopt the versioning policy including the WS-RX policy.
Ram: Second.
Monica: Can someone explain the WS-RX model for versioning?
Ian: The pointer is
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/issues/ReliableMessagingIssues.xml#i088
Ram: The policy states that the namespace will not change arbitrarily. It
will change only when a published CD or specification results in a
non-backwardly compatible namespace, and defines the changes which are
considered not to be backwardly compatible.
Alastair: It should say either CD or specification changes.
Eric: Yes, that is included.
Martin: I would like to feed our decision back to the ASIS review.
ACTION: Chairs to inform ASIS that we are not following the guideline with
respect to hyphens.
Eric: Any objections to passing the proposal, including the WS-RX policy?
No objections noted.
Proposal for resolution of issue 15 has passed.
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Thanks,
Colleen
[1]
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/16930/WS-TX_Minutes_2006_02_23.htm
[2] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-tx/200602/msg00007.html
From: Thomas Freund [mailto:tjfreund@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 6:13 AM
To: Ian Robinson
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I opt for using #1 (as per Ian's suggestion & using the 2006/03 date) ...
just out of curiosity why is it that that the namespace slightly different
between the two ... i.e. #1 is fine with just "wscoor" where #2 is
"wstx-wscoor" (where everthing prepending that portion is the same)
Regards
Tom
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With regard to cross-references between the specs (e.g a [WSCOOR] ref in
WS-AT) there are 2 choices:
1. http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-tx/wscoor/2006/03, which will resolve to a
RDDL doc
2. http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-tx/wstx-wscoor-1.1-spec-wd-03.pdf which
will resolve to the specification document itself
#1 above is fairly common practice and more consistent with the existing
references.
Regards,
Ian Robinson
STSM, WebSphere Messaging and Transactions Architect
IBM Hursley Lab, UK
ian_robinson@uk.ibm.com
Andrew
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Thanks both.
I'll update the reference to WSCOOR too.
I had opted for a date of 2006/03 per Ian's recommendation on last week's
telecon:
"We also need to supply values for the yyyy/mm in the namespace. We
should use 2006/03, based on the date we expect the CD or CDs to be
approved." -
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-tx/download.php/16930/WS-TX_Minutes_2006_02_23.htm
So, just for the sake of clarity, that makes the three namespaces:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-tx/wscoor/2006/03
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-tx/wsat/2006/03
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-tx/wsba/2006/03
Andy
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Andy:
My intention for WS-C was to update all references in the text, as Tom
indicates.
From: Thomas Freund [mailto:tjfreund@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Thu 3/2/2006 10:35 AM
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Andrew,
I had intended to do a global change (including the refs --- and several
additional lines that seem to have been missed in the issue)
Tom
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Max, Tom
In the interests of consistency how far do you plan to go with the changes
for WS-Coor and WS-BA for issue 15?
I intend to update AT to describe coor with a namespace of
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-tx/wscoor/2006/03. At the moment I don't
intend to update the non-normative WSCOOR reference to refer to the new
specification; changing the list of authors and publication date etc. Does
this seem reasonable - I don't feel strongly about this, just that it
would be good for all 3 specs to be updated similarly.
Thanks,
Andy
Ian Robinson/UK/IBM@IBMGB
02/03/2006 16:14
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[ws-tx-editors] Fw: Editors instructions
One further thing.
As a general rule it would help the TC if each WD had cumulative
change-tracking since the last approved draft (CD or PR). We have no
approved draft yet; the base draft with respect to which changes should be
tracked prior to our first CDs is the first drafts that used the OASIS
templates. In this case, please just do your best; if you haven't been
tracking changes in this way so far then just start doing so from now.
Regards,
Ian Robinson
STSM, WebSphere Messaging and Transactions Architect
IBM Hursley Lab, UK
ian_robinson@uk.ibm.com
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Editors instructions
Hello Editors,
Per the discussion on the telecon last week, please can you get updated
drafts to the TC by EOD Tues 7 March.
Please use the following conventions to ensure consistency:
On the front page of each spec, please ensure you use the appropriate "doc
identifier", "location" and "Technical committee" name and correct form of
statustext.
1. Doc identifier value (this value should be on the line following
"Document Identifier" and in the page footer)
wstx-wscoor-1.1-spec-wd-03
wstx-wsat-1.1-spec-wd-03
wstx-wsba-1.1-spec-wd-03
2. Location value:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-tx/wstx-wscoor-1.1-spec-wd-03.pdf
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-tx/wstx-wsat-1.1-spec-wd-03.pdf
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-tx/wstx-wsba-1.1-spec-wd-03.pdf
3. Technical committee
OASIS WS-TX TC
(Note upper case WS-TX)
4. Status.
The first line of the status section should state:
This document is published by the WS-TX TC as a ?working draft".
Please use a file name that is the doc identifier with a ".doc" file
extension e.g wstx-wsba-1.1-spec-wd-03.doc
We don't need to generate new PDFs yet. We will produce PDFs whenever the
TC adopts a new CD.
The issues that we want to incorporate in these drafts are listed below by
spec.
WS-Coordination
Issues: 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 12, 13, 15, 17, (18-21)
WS-AtomicTransaction
Issues: 15, 17
WS-BusinessActivity
Issues: 7, 15, 17,
Regards,
Ian
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