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Subject: RE: [wsbpel-spec-edit] Proposed Language for Version 0.6 - Issue 23 Resolution


Just finished the short call.  

Decision:  We will continue to manually hand off the pen.  Will not try
to rely on any auto merge functionality for concurrent editing.

Actions:

1.  Sid will take the pen and work on Issue 32.
2.  Paco will then take the pen and work on 7, 39, 46
3.  We look to Kevin to follow up on the reopened issue 44

There was also some discussion regarding the issues call this morning
and the idea of attacking the group of issues relating to cross process
coordination (2, 30, the choreology issues, ..).  Suggestion is to put
this on the agenda for the TC for next week.

One more thing I should have mentioned.  As editors I think we are most
responsible for reviewing each other's work and making suggestions for
clarity and completeness.  I want to have a review pass done before the
next Editors' call, assuming all the closed issues get incorporated by
the time of the TC call next week.  We can then take the next Editors'
call to discuss feedback.

Satish

-----Original Message-----
From: Yaron Goland [mailto:ygoland@bea.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 9:28 AM
To: 'Francisco Curbera'; Satish Thatte
Cc: 'Kartha, Neelakantan'; 'BPEL Spec Editing Group (E-mail)'
Subject: RE: [wsbpel-spec-edit] Proposed Language for Version 0.6 -
Issue 23 Resolution

As I mentioned in my earlier mail I am traveling every week for the rest
of
this month. So I can't do much. In fact I'm typing this mail during a
meeting which is why I'm not on today's call.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Francisco Curbera [mailto:curbera@us.ibm.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 6:27 AM
> To: Satish Thatte
> Cc: Kartha, Neelakantan; BPEL Spec Editing Group (E-mail);
> ygoland@bea.com
> Subject: RE: [wsbpel-spec-edit] Proposed Language for Version 0.6 -
> Issue 23 Resolution
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Satish,
>
> I can go next, if this ok with Yaron. On the other hand, I
> will not be able
> oto make it to today's editors call because of a conflicting
> call. Please
> let me know what is the final decision.
>
> Paco
>
>
>
>
>
>                       "Satish Thatte"
>
>
>                       <satisht@microsof        To:
> <ygoland@bea.com>, "Kartha, Neelakantan"
> <N_Kartha@stercomm.com>, "BPEL Spec
>                       t.com>                    Editing Group
> \(E-mail\)" <wsbpel-spec-edit@lists.oasis-open.org>
>
>                                                cc:
>

>                       11/03/2003 01:37         Subject:  RE:
> [wsbpel-spec-edit] Proposed Language for Version 0.6 - Issue
> 23 Resolution
>                       AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yaron and Paco,
>
> Please decide between yourselves who wants to go first now that I am
> done for the moment.
>
> Satish
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yaron Goland [mailto:ygoland@bea.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 2:48 PM
> To: Satish Thatte; 'Kartha, Neelakantan'; 'BPEL Spec Editing Group
> (E-mail)'
> Subject: RE: [wsbpel-spec-edit] Proposed Language for Version 0.6 -
> Issue 23 Resolution
>
> Short Answer: Yes
>
> Long Answer: A good question. I have a bunch of edits I need to make
> over the coming week in order to fully explain multi-start
> but it seems
> silly to hold on to the pen. I will make the edits off-line and then
> edit them back in to whatever version exists when I finish. I don't
> expect the sections I'm editing to radically change in the
> next week or
> two so I'm not too worried about the effort needed to do a
> manual merge.
>
>                          Yaron
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Satish Thatte [mailto:satisht@microsoft.com]
> > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 1:56 PM
> > To: ygoland@bea.com; Kartha, Neelakantan; BPEL Spec Editing Group
> > (E-mail)
> > Subject: RE: [wsbpel-spec-edit] Proposed Language for Version 0.6 -
> > Issue 23 Resolution
> >
> >
> > Thanks.  Are you handing the pen back?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Yaron Goland [mailto:ygoland@bea.com]
> > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 12:16 PM
> > To: Satish Thatte; 'Kartha, Neelakantan'; 'BPEL Spec Editing Group
> > (E-mail)'
> > Subject: RE: [wsbpel-spec-edit] Proposed Language for Version 0.6 -
> > Issue 23 Resolution
> >
> > Done.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Satish Thatte [mailto:satisht@microsoft.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 2:07 PM
> > > To: Kartha, Neelakantan; BPEL Spec Editing Group (E-mail)
> > > Subject: RE: [wsbpel-spec-edit] Proposed Language for
> Version 0.6 -
> > > Issue 23 Resolution
> > >
> > >
> > > I would add "properly configured" in the following way
> > >
> > >
> > > The set of structured activities in BPEL4WS is not intended
> > to be the
> > > minimal required set. There are cases where one activity
> can replace
> > > another. For example, the sequence activity, used to
> > > structure sequential
> > > processing, may be emulated by a properly configured  flow
> > > with additional links. The purpose in
> > > providing what are, strictly speaking, redundant activities
> > > is to make it
> > > easier for BPEL programmers to both read and write BPEL
> > > programs by making
> > > available familiar, if functionally redundant, programming
> > constructs.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The reason is to highlight that in cases where a sequence has
> > > additional links coming into it, getting the behavior to be
> > > eqwuivalent with a flow can be tricky.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Satish
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > From: Kartha, Neelakantan [mailto:N_Kartha@stercomm.com]
> > > Sent: Thu 10/23/2003 12:39 PM
> > > To: BPEL Spec Editing Group (E-mail)
> > > Subject: RE: [wsbpel-spec-edit] Proposed Language for Version
> > > 0.6 - Issue 23 Resolution
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Looks good to me.
> > >
> > > Kartha
> > >
> > > (BTW, sorry I could not make it yesterday--was traveling on
> > business).
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Yaron Goland [mailto:ygoland@bea.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 3:00 PM
> > > To: BPEL Spec Editing Group (E-mail)
> > > Subject: [wsbpel-spec-edit] Proposed Language for Version 0.6
> > > - Issue 23
> > > Resolution
> > >
> > >
> > > In playing around with Issue 23 I felt it could use a bit
> > of editorial
> > > cleanup. I used the exact text from the resolution in the
> > > exact position
> > > specified. My only change to the issue's text was the
> > > addition of a comma
> > > and the removal of the last part of the last sentence.
> > These are just
> > > editorial changes.
> > >
> > > I also added an additional sentence which, while
> > > non-normative, I felt would
> > > make the whole situation a lot clearer.
> > >
> > > The set of structured activities in BPEL4WS is not intended
> > to be the
> > > minimal required set. There are cases where one activity
> can replace
> > > another. For example, the sequence activity, used to
> > > structure sequential
> > > processing, may be emulated by a flow with additional links.
> > > The purpose in
> > > providing what are, strictly speaking, redundant activities
> > > is to make it
> > > easier for BPEL programmers to both read and write BPEL
> > > programs by making
> > > available familiar, if functionally redundant, programming
> > constructs.
> > >
> > >         Any comments before I check this in?
> > >
> > >                 Thanks,
> > >                                 Yaron
> > >
> > >
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