All,
I think I was able to
capture a complete transcript of the session - see attached.
The only edits I made
were to snip activity prior to meeting start and after meeting
adjourn.
This is a DOC file -
I would have posted as simple text but the emoticons get dropped. If another
format is preferred, let me know.
Thanks again, Bernd,
for spearheading this service.
HTH,
Rand
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Message-----
From: Eckenfels.
Bernd [mailto:B.Eckenfels@seeburger.de]
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 2:25
PM
To:
wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [wsbpel] Irc
Notes
Hello everybody,
attached you find a (incomplete)
log file of the chat this morning. I have (hopefully) removed all
IP-Addresses, so no security problem should be associated with sending this
around.
Some points/ideas about the IRC
thing:
- the server is open for you to
try, may experience some downtimes, while I work on it. I might add a direct
IRC access with clients, cause this is more efficient for those of you who
already use irc clients
- Rand suggested the live script,
and I think this is a good idea, for phone and f2f meetings:
o setting up a channel
where observers can join, but only the secretary and chair can
write
(this is especially good for the
f2f meeting to announce new agenda points for people waiting
to dial in)
- Danny suggested to accept "raise
hands" for the speaker queue in addition to the phone by irc
(this is good since it minimizes
the interruption, and the speaker queue manager can easily read full names. No
disadvantage for non-irc speakers, they can use the traditional phone way,
which works anyway. SQ manger is semi trusted to present the state of the
queue in regular intervals.)
- Background discussions (in an
open un-moderated channel)
(this is good for exchanging
links, but it is also bad because it generates some background discussions,
might not be a good thing for formal meetings)
<<irclog.txt>>
Some open points I
discovered:
- some people had problems with
access, I need more input
- overview on who is who is a bit
missing if you are not experienced with the /whois function, I can fix that
(with a modification or other software)
- registration would be good,
because the service may be subject to deny of service (malicious or by
accident like a big cut+paste)
(this is actually the
reason why I did not open direct irc client access, because I was not
confident of "good" configuration)
If irc gets more official than
that (besides accepting hand-raising and producing transcripts) the
functionality for ad-hoc voting and even speaker queue can be added, but I do
not propose to go this way, till we all are more comfortable with the other
two points I have proposed.
Later this week I send a short
documentation (and might even switch the web front-end) to the
list.
For the meeting I will set up a
"open" channel #bpel-discuss, an moderated #bpel-transcript (and provide some
introductions on how to use them).
Greetings
Bernd