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Subject: Re: [wsbpel] Human editable BPEL?


Then let's just submit use cases and see what we come up with. Here's my 
use case.

Sometimes we do have to manually write, edit or review process 
definitions. We do that in QA since we're testing tools that produce and 
consume these definitions. We also do that quite often when we work with 
a new version of the specification and the tool is not up to spec yet.

Now the question becomes: are shortcuts helpful or not. The shortuct 
saves you writing another XML element, so if I did end up writing a lot 
of these definitions (a lot >= 10) then it would be helpful. I expect 
that a test suite with say a hundred process definitions may contain in 
order of five definitions that actually use this shortcut.

The downside: there's another semantic added to the language. So first 
of all the author and reviewer had to be aware of it, and so we've saved 
on XML elements but stacked up more requirements for those poor souls 
having to code BPEL definitions by hand. And second I know need two use 
cases: one with a sequence and one withtout (since nothing precludes 
using a <sequence> there, or a sequence of <sequence>), so now I have to 
produce even more test cases and have more lines of code.

So for my particular use case I would not consider this shortcut to be 
of help but rather complicate matters.

arkin

Yaron Y. Goland wrote:

>I remember in the late 1980s when everyone argued that source code was dead
>and all programs would be written using UIs.
>
>I remember the early 1990s when everyone argued that no one would ever
>directly author HTML.
>
>I also remember the late 1990s when everyone (myself included =( )argued
>that it didn't matter if XML was human editable since everyone would use
>tools.
>
>It's funny how often everyone is wrong.
>
>	Just a thought,
>			Yaron
>
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