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Subject: RE: [wsbpel] Issue - 46 - Namespace for the document fragment representing a part


Title: Namespace for the document fragment representing a part

Sorry if the wording of my replies misled you.  My Issue is not really about the part as type and property alias queries, but also XPath 1.0 vs. XPath 2.0 and the queries within bpel assignments and expressions.  Even if we assume no namespaces in the document fragment under the part as type case (which we should think hard about as validation would be an issue), many of the messages would most definitely contain namespaces and as such require qualification in XPath 1.0.

 

Chris

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Ugo Corda [mailto:UCorda@SeeBeyond.com]
Sent:
Thursday, August 07, 2003 1:46 PM
To: chris.keller@active-endpoints.com; wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [wsbpel] Issue - 46 - Namespace for the document fragment representing a part

 

The only exception would be the case where the subelements are actually declared globally in the schema and then referenced within the type (see the example in BP 1.0, sec. 5.6.21). But that is not the case for the BPEL example on page 49.

 

Ugo

-----Original Message-----
From: Ugo Corda
Sent:
Thursday, August 07, 2003 10:30 AM
To: chris.keller@active-endpoints.com; wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [wsbpel] Issue - 46 - Namespace for the document fragment representing a part

I disagree. Those elements are local elements and, according to Schema 1 (section 3.3.2), they are in no namespace (unless a elementFormDefault="qualified" has been specified for the corresponding schema).

 

Ugo

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Keller [mailto:chris.keller@active-endpoints.com]
Sent:
Thursday, August 07, 2003 10:24 AM
To: Ugo Corda; wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [wsbpel] Issue - 46 - Namespace for the document fragment representing a part

I think that we should assume that the elements under the part are fully qualified, meaning that their QName is associated with the namespace in the document fragment of the part.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Ugo Corda [mailto:UCorda@SeeBeyond.com]
Sent:
Thursday, August 07, 2003 12:56 PM
To: chris.keller@active-endpoints.com; wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [wsbpel] Issue - 46 - Namespace for the document fragment representing a part

 

Chris,

 

I don't think I agree with your final conclusion.

 

If we decide, as I proposed, to follow the BP 1.0 resolution, then a part defined in terms of a type has no namespace (please notice: I am not talking about default namespace here).

 

If the part has no namespace, there is no prefix that can be used to identify the namespace of the top element (as shown in the BP 1.0 example I pointed out below). This should still be consistent with what XPath 1.0 says ("if the QName does not have a prefix, then the namespace URI is null"). So a path starting with "/PO/..." should be fine.

 

For what concerns the complete path example you give, "/PO/tns:Header/tns:PONumber", I don't think the tns prefix should be there. Assuming that elementFormDefault="unqualified" for the corresponding schema (which is the default value), the local elements of purchaseOrder should also be in no namespace.

 

Ugo

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Keller [mailto:chris.keller@active-endpoints.com]
Sent:
Wednesday, August 06, 2003 7:50 PM
To: Ugo Corda; wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [wsbpel] Namespace for the document fragment representing a part

Ugo,

 

I brought up the issue.  I believe this requires clarification.  First in XPath 1.0 there is no default namespace for evaluation meaning that all names need to be qualified with a prefix.  In XPath 2.0 there is the use of a default namespace, but this specification is referencing 1.0.  Putting that aside for a moment in both 1.0 and 2.0 no namespace is not equal to default namespace.  Let’s take an example:

 

  <message name="poMessage">

    <part name="PO" type="tns:purchaseOrder"/>

  </message>

 

  <bpws:property name="poNumber" type="xsd:positiveInteger"/>

 

  <bpws:propertyAlias propertyName="tns:poNumber"  

       messageType="tns:poMessage" part="PO"

       query="/PO/Header/PONumber"/>

  </bpws:propertyAlias>

 

If as you suggest we assume that the Part PO is included in the query (which I agree with) and has no namespace (namespace URI is null) association.  This query in order to be correct in XPath should be formulated as:

 

 /PO/tns:Header/tns:PONumber

 

Note the section Node Tests from XPath 1.0 (http://www.w3.org/TR/xpath#node-tests – section 2.3 Node Tests)

 

“A node test that is a QName is true if and only if the type of the node (see [5 Data Model]) is the principal node type and has an expanded-name equal to the expanded-name specified by the QName. For example, child::para selects the para element children of the context node; if the context node has no para children, it will select an empty set of nodes. attribute::href selects the href attribute of the context node; if the context node has no href attribute, it will select an empty set of nodes.

 

A QName in the node test is expanded into an expanded-name using the namespace declarations from the expression context. This is the same way expansion is done for element type names in start and end-tags except that the default namespace declared with xmlns is not used: if the QName does not have a prefix, then the namespace URI is null (this is the same way attribute names are expanded). It is an error if the QName has a prefix for which there is no namespace declaration in the expression context.”

 

-- Note the statement “except that the default namespace declared with xmlns is not used: if the QName does not have a prefix, then the namespace URI is null”

 

Now in XPath 2.0 it is slightly different (http://www.w3.org/TR/xpath20/#node-tests – section 3.2.1.2 Node Tests)

 

“A node test that consists of a QName is called a name test. A name test is true if and only if the kind of the node is the principal node kind and the expanded-QName of the node is equal to the expanded-QName specified by the name test. For example, child::para selects the para element children of the context node; if the context node has no para children, it selects an empty set of nodes. attribute::abc:href selects the attribute of the context node with the QName abc:href; if the context node has no such attribute, it selects an empty set of nodes.

 

A QName in a name test is expanded into an expanded-QName using the in-scope namespaces in the expression context. It is a static error if the QName has a prefix that does not correspond to any in-scope namespace. An unprefixed QName, when used as a name test on an axis whose principal node kind is element, has the namespaceURI of the default element namespace in the expression context; otherwise, it has no namespaceURI.”

 

-- Note the statement: “An unprefixed QName, when used as a name test on an axis whose principal node kind is element, has the namespaceURI of the default element namespace in the expression context; otherwise, it has no namespaceURI.”

 

-- So in either case we need to qualify the namespace for your message part declared as a type example.  And if we are following the XPath 1.0 specification we should qualify all elements that have a namespace since no default namespace is applied.  In this case basically every query in the bpel specification is incorrect and should contain prefixes for all element names associated with namespaces in the XPath expressions.

 

I will continue to submit the namespace in queries as a new issue unless we want to address it as part of your original query clarification issue.  Please let me know your thoughts.

 

Chris

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Ugo Corda [mailto:UCorda@SeeBeyond.com]
Sent:
Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:50 PM
To: wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [wsbpel] Namespace for the document fragment representing a part

 

During today's discussion of item 39, somebody brought up the issue of which namespace is associated with the document fragment representing a part. This is, of course, relevant to writing path expressions in query attributes found in assignments and property aliases declarations.

I imagine this should be an issue only in the case where the part is defined in terms of a type. (If the part is defined in terms of an element, I would assume the namespace should be the same as the element's namespace).

In the case the part is defined in terms of a type, I would follow what the WS-I Basic Profile 1.0 says in section 5.6.20, Namespace for Part Accessors:

"R2735 A MESSAGE described with an rpc-literal binding MUST place the part accessor elements for parameters and return value in no namespace".

(See also the example in the following section 5.6.21).

In other words, I would follow the same direction and say that the top element of a document fragment representing a part defined in terms of a type does not belong to any namespace.

Ugo



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