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Subject: Re: [wsbpel] Licensing lssues for Small Vendors


Danny,

Thanks.  I don't know if to laugh or cry.

When lawyers takeover doing anything - everyone
usually loses.  Whoever invited them to the party should
have their membership revoked.

Oh well.

There are of course exceptions to the rule.
Will Jamie Clark please standup and take
a bow!

DW.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Danny van der Rijn" <dannyv@tibco.com>
To: <wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: [wsbpel] Licensing lssues for Small Vendors


> david -
>
> you are quite correct.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David RR Webber" <david@drrw.info>
> To: "John Evdemon" <jevdemon@microsoft.com>; "Danny van der Rijn"
> <dannyv@tibco.com>; <wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [wsbpel] Licensing lssues for Small Vendors
>
>
> > John,
> >
> > Just a quick clarification - I've not looked at the links - but I'd
> assumed
> > all along that each of the five licensors were using the same license
> > document verbatim - just company name different - but I'm getting the
> > bad vibe in my water from your posting that they might all be different
> > in subtle but potentially meaningful ways?
> >
> > Thanks, DW
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "John Evdemon" <jevdemon@microsoft.com>
> > To: "Danny van der Rijn" <dannyv@tibco.com>;
<wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 3:27 PM
> > Subject: RE: [wsbpel] Licensing lssues for Small Vendors
> >
> >
> > On Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:30 AM, Danny van der Rijn wrote:
> >
> > > i can't find the IP statements on the OASIS web site
> >
> > The IP statements are here - they include links to each of the license
> > agreements (I am tempted to roll up these links to a simpler web page
> > for the site):
> > http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/wsbpel/ipr.php
> >
> > Here are the BPEL license agreement sites/email addresses from the IPR
> > statement:
> >
> > 1) Microsoft:
> > http://msdn.microsoft.com/webservices/docs/bpel_license.asp
> >
> > 2) IBM: Marc Schechter - marcsche@us.ibm.com
> >
> > 3) BEA:
> > http://dev2dev.bea.com/technologies/webservices/standards_license_BPEL.j
> > sp
> >
> > 4) SAP:
> > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel/download.php/2985/SA
> > P%20RF%20License%20for%20WS%20BPEL%20Spec.PDF
> >
> > 5) Siebel:  Pending - I hope to make an announcement at the F2F next
> > week.
> >
> > You can also download a consolidated list of License Contacts at:
> > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel/download.php/2986/bp
> > el-license-contact.xls
> >
> > Hope this is helpful.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
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