Re: [wsbpel] Issue 103 - Good Idea!

[Danny van der Rijn <dannyv@tibco.com>]

even so, if we add the ability to have assign create new nodes (issue 11),
then this syntax wouldn't work.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Maciej Szefler" <mbs@fivesight.com>
To: "Danny van der Rijn" <dannyv@tibco.com>; "wsbpeltc"
<wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [wsbpel] Issue 103 - Good Idea!


> This might not be a problem if it were possible to define copy assignment
> in terms of node-replacement operations;  then any expression that returns
> a node could act as an l-value to an assignment. Such a scheme could rely
> exclusively on schema-based type checking (with an implied schema for
> message variables).
> -maciej
>
>
> On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 09:12:04 -0800, Danny van der Rijn <dannyv@tibco.com>
> wrote:
>
> > i wouldn't think so, since $var refers to the value, not the location.
> > but
> > being just a mere mortal, i am open to being corrected.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Satish Thatte" <satisht@microsoft.com>
> > To: "Maciej Szefler" <mbs@fivesight.com>; "Dieter Roller"
> > <ROL@de.ibm.com>
> > Cc: "Alex Yiu" <alex.yiu@oracle.com>; "Assaf Arkin" <arkin@intalio.com>;
> > "wsbpeltc" <wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org>; <ygoland@bea.com>
> > Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 8:52 AM
> > Subject: RE: [wsbpel] Issue 103 - Good Idea!
> >
> >
> > I imagine that expression= is as relevant to "to" as to "from" ..
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From: Maciej Szefler [mailto:mbs@fivesight.com]
> > Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 8:47 AM
> > To: Dieter Roller; Satish Thatte
> > Cc: Alex Yiu; Assaf Arkin; wsbpeltc; ygoland@bea.com
> > Subject: Re: [wsbpel] Issue 103 - Good Idea!
> >
> > I haven't followed this discussion too closely, but am I correct in
> > inferring that if these suggestion were adopted, we could eliminate most
> >
> > of the from-specs in the assign activity? Could we normalize assignment
> > to
> > the following
> >
> >    <copy>
> >       <to variable="msgVar"/>
> >       <from expression="$otherMsgVar"/>
> >    </copy>
> >
> > could be used to assign a message variable.
> >
> >    <copy>
> >       <to variable="simpleTypeVar"/>
> >       <from expression="$msgVar/msg/simplePart"/>
> >    </copy>
> >
> >    <copy>
> >       <to variable="simpleTypeVar"/>
> >       <from expression="$otherSimpleTypeVar"/>
> >    </copy>
> >
> > could be used to assign a simple variable
> >
> >    <copy>
> >       <to variable="elementVar"/>
> >       <from expression="$msgVar/msg/elementPartType"/>
> >    </copy>
> >    <copy>
> >       <to variable="elementVar"/>
> >       <from expression="$otherElementVar"/>
> >    </copy>
> >
> > could be used to assign an element variable.
> >
> > -maciej
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 07:23:35 +0100, Dieter Roller <ROL@de.ibm.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> +1
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> dieter
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>              "Satish Thatte"
> >>              <satisht@microsof
> >>              t.com>
> >
> >> To
> >>                                        "Assaf Arkin"
> > <arkin@intalio.com>,
> >>              03/12/2004 05:14          "Alex Yiu"
> > <alex.yiu@oracle.com>
> >>              AM
> >
> >> cc
> >>                                        "wsbpeltc"
> >>                                        <wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org>,
> >>                                        <ygoland@bea.com>
> >>
> > Subject
> >>                                        RE: [wsbpel] Issue 103 - Good
> >> Idea!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I am having trouble keeping up with this fast moving discussion.  I am
> >> hoping that you will reach an agreement and then educate the mere
> >> mortals among us on what the consensus proposal is ..
> >>
> >> Satish
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Assaf Arkin [mailto:arkin@intalio.com]
> >> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 7:59 PM
> >> To: Alex Yiu
> >> Cc: wsbpeltc; Satish Thatte; ygoland@bea.com
> >> Subject: Re: [wsbpel] Issue 103 - Good Idea!
> >>
> >>
> >>> (4)
> >>> Assaf suggested:
> >>> In WSDL 2.0,
> >>> $variable/ns:element[/ns:subElement]
> >>> In WSDL 1.1,
> >>> $variable/partName/ns:element
> >>>
> >>> I was wondering whether it make sense to add a WSDL QNAME
> >>> (ns:wsdlMsgName) like the following for WSDL 1.1:
> >>>
> >>> $variable/ns:wsdlMsgName/partName/...
> >>>
> >>> then the syntax would be more symmetrically between WSDL 1.1 and 2.0
> >>> ns:wsdlMsgName => ns:element
> >>> partname => subElement
> >>>
> >>> The BPEL code migration may be easier from WSDL 1.1 to 2.0
> >>
> >> If anyone has a good handle on where WSDL 2.0 is heading with their
> >> message definition, would be great to throw some ideas around. Ideally
> >> if you have a WSDL 2.0 interface that's backward compatible with WSDL
> >> 1.1, you could use the BPEL process with both 1.1 and 2.0 without
> >> change.
> >>
> >> Assaf
> >>
> >>
> >>
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