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Subject: RE: [wsbpel] BPELJ
Mark, I was just thinking of being able to place different type of transactions within the business process, in a way similar to what the EJB model allows you to do, but maybe it does not make sense? Olivier -----Original Message----- From: Mark Little [mailto:mark.little@arjuna.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 4:03 PM To: ygoland@bea.com; Brand, Olivier, VF-GP&S Düsseldorf Cc: wsbpeltc Subject: Re: [wsbpel] BPELJ Olivier, there is also the OASIS Business Transactions Protocol (BTP) for doing transaction management. Mark. ---- Mark Little, Chief Architect, Transactions, Arjuna Technologies Ltd. www.arjuna.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brand, Olivier, VF-GP&S Düsseldorf" <Olivier.Brand@vodafone.com> To: <ygoland@bea.com> Cc: "wsbpeltc" <wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 2:49 PM Subject: RE: [wsbpel] BPELJ > Yaron, > > I have reviewed the BPELJ whitepaper and I have several concerns / questions regarding this. I am concern on the approach which is "breaking" the portability of BPEL. This reminds me of some Java extensions that can be included in some XSLT (a vendor centric approach). > Why don't we take the approach that IBM is following within their BPEL implementation: make use of the WSDL binding extensions to include other type of technology? I am talking here about WSIF. It seems to be a good approach. The BPEL compiler will be the one optimizing access to the objects. > > The other point I wanted to raise is on the use of transactions. How would you (if you would) propagate a transaction from a Java component to a Web Service endpoint? I think that this raises the issue of not having a Web Service Transactional framework in place in the current BPEL spec. Why not advocating the use of WS-CAF which is the only standard in this space for managing transactions and context propagation? (Initiatives from IBM and Microsoft are not in any standardization bodies. Am I wrong?) > > Thanks for clarifying these points > > Olivier > > -----Original Message----- > From: Yaron Y. Goland [mailto:ygoland@bea.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 10:13 PM > To: wsbpeltc > Subject: [wsbpel] BPELJ > > Although it has been in the news I thought I would still send a note > pointing out that BEA and IBM have recently released a joint whitepaper > describing our shared vision for how BPEL and Java should work together > called BPELJ. This whitepaper will be submitted for consideration by JSR > 207 in the JCP. > > BPELJ is a consumer of the BPEL standard and so I hope the BPELJ effort > will be able to contribute practical feedback on what it's like to use BPEL. > > You can find out more about BPELJ at: > http://ftpna2.bea.com/pub/downloads/ws-bpelj.pdf > and > ftp://www6.software.ibm.com/software/developer/library/ws-bpelj.pdf > > Thanks, > Yaron > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster of the OASIS TC), go to http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel/members/leave_workgroup. php. > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster of the OASIS TC), go to http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel/members/leave_workgroup. php. > >
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