Re: [wsbpel] Re: Issue 34 - Proposal for vote

["Yaron Y. Goland" <ygoland@bea.com>]

Issue 34 is not, to the best of my knowledge, an issue upon which there 
are a large number of dependencies. Furthermore, there is nothing 
inherent in the W3C process that would prohibit rapid progress on a spec 
with full adoption in a time span that is shorter than the expected 
lifespan of this group. Therefore I support delaying a vote on this 
issue while we see what happens in the W3C.

	Yaron

Ron Ten-Hove wrote:

> 
> 
> Paco,
> 
>     I appreciate your response, but I respectfully have to say that I
> still don't understand the value of delay. To address your points:
> 
>     Let us suppose that we do delay, and that in two or three months a
> W3C working group is created to develop WS-MD/WS-A into public
> specifications. Could we, the WS-BPEL TC, then take a dependency on this
> anticipated new specification? The answer is clearly no, as the WSDL 2.0
> precedent you cited shows. Therefore waiting for such a working group to
> form is rather pointless. Or had you in mind something different from a
> dependency on such a specification?
> 
>     Our TC has a large number of outstanding issues to be resolved, many
> of which "interact" with each other. The sooner we resolve some issues,
> the easier it will be to resolve the remaining ones. We do have a
> limited amount of time available [1], and deliberate delays will
> ultimately delay the completion of our work. (This TC formed over a year
> ago; my eldest child has grown over ten centimetres in that time span! :-)
> 
> -Ron
> 
> [1] Our charter states that "The final draft of the resultant
> specification will be due within 9 months of the first meeting", so we
> are already late.
> 
> Francisco Curbera wrote:
> 
>  >
>  >
>  >Ron,
>  >
>  >I was pointing out that things seem to be moving, after the recent w3c
>  >submission. Waiting for standards is clearly not a requirements, as our
>  >position wrt WSDL 2.0 shows. on the other hand, if a submitted document
>  >were to become the seed of a working group we would have a clear 
> reference
>  >point to build upon. Since a delay of this decision comes at 
> essentially no
>  >price, it seems unnecessary to rush to close it.
>  >
>  >Paco
>  > 
>  >
> 
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