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Subject: RE: [wsbpel] Abstract processes - how much energy do we expend here - how does this impact executable progress?
My personal opinion. Does not necessarily impact executable progress as executable currently is progressing in parallel and has its own critical path. We could further decouple. While I understand the need to solve the executable BPEL problems and get the spec for executable BPEL out, and I am therefore sympathetic to the idea of decoupling, I can also see that without it people will have some difficulties - and at first may try to 'bend' executable BPEL to abstract BPEL uses. This may actually work to some extent as I currently see the two as being close syntax wise though the uses can be fairly different. While I think there is a whole spectrum of abstract possibilities and executable (but non runnable) possibilities through to runnable executable processes and many different use cases as presented by Phil, Ivana and captured in the informal group on abstract processes temporary document, I think the main ones have been outlined by Satish - and they will not go away. That is in one direction you want to design a process, you start of with the essentials only (an abstract process) and incrementally develop it maybe with hand offs to different designers until you have an executable process that runs and does all that you want it to. In the other direction you have an executable process (or code and you derive and executable BPEL process from that) and you want to share it with a partner so that they do the inverse (in terms of messages i.e. they receive when you send and send when you receive), but want to keep some of the detail of what you are actually doing under the hood confidential. Summary: I think we will need something like what we currently call abstract BPEL sometime, and it should be simpler than executable. Best Regards Tony A M Fletcher Home: 35, Wimborne Avenue, IPSWICH IP3 8QW Tel: +44 (0) 1473 729537 Mobile: +44 (0) 7801 948219 amfletcher@iee.org (also tony.fletcher@talk21.com & tony_fletcher@btopenworld.com) -----Original Message----- From: Monica J. Martin [mailto:Monica.Martin@Sun.COM] Sent: 23 June 2004 22:02 To: 'Wsbpel@Lists. Oasis-Open. Org (E-mail)' Subject: [wsbpel] Abstract processes - how much energy do we expend here - how does this impact executable progress? To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster of the OASIS TC), go to http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel/members/leave_workgroup. php.
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