Re: [wsbpel] Issue - 199 - Proposal for Vote (Message Variable NamingScheme)

[Yuzo Fujishima <fujishima@bc.jp.nec.com>]

Thank you for the kind offer! > Alex

I propose that we delay the voting for 199.
Sorry for the confusion this would make. > everyone

Yuzo Fujishima
NEC Corporation

Alex Yiu wrote:
> 
> Hi Yuzo,
> 
> Writing the actual spec (delta) text  for Issue 199 that fits and 
> applies to Issue 103 proposal text is actually on my TO-DO list for a 
> while.
> 
> Yuzo ... let's delay the formal voting a bit ... and work together to 
> come up with delta text to cover both Issue 199 and Issue 203. And, use 
> the formal voting of Issue 199 and 203 to give our detailed text an 
> official status.
> 
> For Issue 203, I would go for (C) closer to the pre-103 situation. [ 
> which was (B) in your 103 email, which Paco likes in general. ]
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Alex Yiu
> 
> 
> Yuzo Fujishima wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> I think there are two things to be added to the specification.
>>
>> 1. Restriction on variable name.
>> 2. Definition of the semantics of $variable.part.
>>
>> As for 1, I propose the following:
>>
>> In: "9.2. Variables" of the specification draft (27FEB2005)
>> After: "The name of a variable should be unique within its own scope."
>> Insert: "The name must not contain a comma (".")."
>>
>> As for 2, I think it should be an essential part of Issue 103
>> resolution rather than that of 199. In my opinion, Issue 199 serves as 
>> input to the writer(s) of the final resolution of 103 by picking "." 
>> as the separator between a variable and a part.
>>
>> Yuzo Fujishima
>> NEC Corporation
>>
>> Yaron Y. Goland wrote:
>>
>>> Proposals to vote should have something reasonably close to the 
>>> actual language that is going to go into the spec. This proposal 
>>> lacks that.
>>>
>>>
>>>     Yaron
>>>
>>> Yuzo Fujishima wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I move that we adopt the submitter's proposal to solve Issue 199.
>>>>
>>>> Yuzo Fujishima
>>>> NEC Corporation
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chris Keller wrote:
>>>>  >
>>>>  >
>>>>  > +1
>>>>  >
>>>>  >  >
>>>>  > * From: * Satish Thatte [mailto:satisht@microsoft.com]
>>>>  > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 16, 2005 6:39 PM
>>>>  > *To:* Alex Yiu; Yuzo Fujishima
>>>>  > *Cc:* wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org; Yaron Y. Goland
>>>>  > *Subject:* RE: [wsbpel] Issue 199: Message Variable Naming Scheme
>>>>  >
>>>>  >  >
>>>>  > I think “.” is perfect.
>>>>  >
>>>>  >  >
>>>>  > * From: * Alex Yiu [mailto:alex.yiu@oracle.com]
>>>>  > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 16, 2005 7:54 AM
>>>>  > *To:* Yuzo Fujishima
>>>>  > *Cc:* wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org; Satish Thatte; Yaron Y. 
>>>> Goland; Alex Yiu
>>>>  > *Subject:* Re: [wsbpel] Issue 199: Message Variable Naming Scheme
>>>>  >
>>>>  >  >
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Hi Yuzo and others,
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Just want to supplement info that there is a well-defined 
>>>> character sets
>>>>  > that we can use within a NCNAME.
>>>>  >
>>>>  > http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-xml-names/#NT-NCName
>>>>  >
>>>>  > It looks like "." may be a good choice.
>>>>  >
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Regards,
>>>>  > Alex Yiu
>>>>  >
>>>>  >
>>>>  >  >
>>>>  >
>>>>  >     * Issue 199: Message Variable Naming Scheme *
>>>>  >
>>>>  > * Status: * received
>>>>  > *Date added:* 16 Mar 2005
>>>>  > *Categories:* Data handling
>>>>  > 
>>>> <http://www.choreology.com/external/WS_BPEL_issues_list.html#category_data_handling> 
>>>>
>>>>  > *Date submitted:* 16 March 2005
>>>>  > *Submitter:* Yuzo Fujishima <mailto:fujishima@bc.jp.nec.com>
>>>>  > *Champion:* Yuzo Fujishima <fujishima@bc.jp.nec.com>
>>>>  > <mailto:fujishima@bc.jp.nec.com>
>>>>  > *Document:* Issue 103 resolution
>>>>  > *Description:* Since Issue 103 has been resolved without defining
>>>>  > concrete naming scheme for message variables, we need a new issue to
>>>>  > discuss it.
>>>>  >
>>>>  > The BPEL issues list lists three candiates:
>>>>  >
>>>>  > A. $variable.part B. $variable_part C. $variable-part
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Submitter's proposal: I think candidate C is not viable because 
>>>> "-" will
>>>>  > be interpreted as the minus operator.
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Choose candiate A and make it illegal to have "." in variable names.
>>>>  > *Changes:* 16 Mar 2005 - new issue
>>>>
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