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Subject: Re: [wsbpel] Issue 157 Proposal - August 17 Revision


Chris,

Chris Keller wrote:
> Hi Yuzo,
> 
> On 1) I believe a TII in the to-SPEC won't be empty since the attempt to
> select the node itself would have caused a selectionFailure (e.g. a query
> like /a/b/text() returning an empty nodelist).

Oops! You are right.

Yuzo

> 
> On 2) I agree my preference also is the mismatchedAssignmentFailure for the
> same reason you mentioned.
> 
> - Chris
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yuzo Fujishima [mailto:fujishima@bc.jp.nec.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 2:53 AM
> To: Alex Yiu
> Cc: chris.keller@active-endpoints.com; wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org;
> 'Charlton Barreto'; 'Danny van der Rijn'; 'Yaron Y. Goland'; 'Diane Jordan'
> Subject: Re: [wsbpel] Issue 157 Proposal - August 17 Revision
> 
> Alex, Chris,
> 
> I have two comments/questions.
> 
> 1. Will the fault result even if the to-spec TII is also empty?
>    In this case, deletion of an infoset will not happen; the infoset
>    doesn't exist from the beginning.
> 
> 2. I prefer mismatchedAssignmentFailure.
>    If a user is presented with a selectionFailure, s/he will
>    probably check the from/to-spec XPaths only to find each is
>    valid per se and get confused.
> 
> Yuzo Fujishima
> NEC Corporation
> 
> Alex Yiu wrote:
> 
>>Hi Chris,
>>
>>I understand your points ...  I don't have a strong opinion on which 
>>fault should be thrown for this particular case as of this moment. [ 
>>But, I still have a not-so-strong preference ... :-) ]
>>
>> >From some viewpoints, it can be grouped to selectionFailure, because 
>>it is related to non-existence nature of data returned from the 
>>from-spec (i.e. empty string) and the after effect of <copy> operation. 
>>(i.e. text node becomes non-existent).
>>
>> >From some viewpoints, it can be grouped to 
>>mismatchedAssignmentFailure, because it is related to certain 
>>undesirable combination between RValue item and LValue item. 
>>
>>On the other hand, I would to add: mismatchedAssignmentFailure so far is 
>>reserved for type mismatch , not data value mismatch (which is our case; 
>>data type can be both string type). Quoted from spec:  "Thrown when 
>>incompatible types are encountered in an assign activity".
>>
>>Also, selectionFailure has been generalized to report the cases of 
>>Document-II or Comment-II selection.
>>
>>I guess it is a question which fault to be generalized.
>>
>>Given we may touch the definition of "mismatchedAssignFailure" during 
>>Issue 51, how about taking "selectionFailure" for now? And, open a new 
>>bug issue to track whether "selectionFailure" should be replaced by 
>>"mismatchedAssignFailure" in this particular case. Let's tackle this 
>>which fault to throw issue after Issue 51 is resolved?
>>
>>Would that work for you?
>>
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>
>>Regards,
>>Alex Yiu
>>
>>
>>Chris Keller wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi Alex,
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>I think selectionFailure may be the wrong fault to throw.  A 
>>>mismatchedAssignmentFailure may be the more appropriate fault.
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>From the spec:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>selectionFailure:  Thrown when a selection operation performed either 
>>>in a function such as bpws:getVariableData, or in an assignment, 
>>>encounters an error.
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>mismatchedAssignmentFailure:  Thrown when incompatible types are 
>>>encountered in an assign activity.
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>- Chris
>>>
>>>* From: * Alex Yiu [mailto:alex.yiu@oracle.com]
>>>*Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2005 3:35 PM
>>>*To:* wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org <mailto:wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org>
>>>*Cc:* Alex Yiu; Charlton Barreto; Danny van der Rijn; Chris Keller; 
>>>Yaron Y. Goland; Diane Jordan
>>>*Subject:* Re: [wsbpel] Issue 157 Proposal - August 17 Revision
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi all,
>>>
>>>Requested by Danny, here I send the more formal wordings of the 
>>>friendly amendment to the TC list for the record:
>>>
>>>Add the following restriction to the proposal:
>>>-------------------------------
>>>When the to-spec selects a TII (e.g. Text node in XPath 1.0) as LValue 
>>>and one of the followings is computed or selected as RValue from the 
>>>from-spec:
>>>
>>>    * a TII which has zero Character Information Item
>>>    * an AII which has an empty string as its [normalized value]
>>>    * an EII which has zero Character Information Item as its
>>>      desendants, that is its [children] and nested [children]. (Note:
>>>      applying XPath 1.0 String() function to ths kind of EII would
>>>      yield an empty string)
>>>
>>>bpws:selectionFailure fault MUST be thrown.
>>>-------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Alex Yiu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Alex Yiu wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>I have uploaded these proposal docs to OASIS website as well.
>>>
>>>
> 
> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel/download.php/14094/WS-BP
> EL_Issue_157_Proposal_Aug17.pdf
> 
> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel/download.php/14095/WS-BP
> EL_Issue_157_Proposal_Aug17.doc
> 
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Alex YIu
>>>
>>>
>>>Charlton Barreto wrote:
>>>
>>>Attached are the .doc and .pdf formats for the August 17 revision of 
>>>the Issue 157 proposal, accepting Yaron and Monica's editorials and 
>>>Yaron's friendly amendment:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>1) Amendment: Remove Section (C) and incorporate that as the seed for 
>>>the Issue 51 discussion.
>>>
>>>2) Editorial: Add language to express that a TII LValue cannot be empty.
>>>
>>>3) Editorial: Remove "source" from "...as the name of the resulting 
>>>source element." in the first sub-bullet of the RE description in 
>>>Section (D) (which is now renamed as Section (C)).
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>-Charlton.
>>>
>>>-- 
>>>
>>>Adobe Systems, Inc.
>>>
>>>mailto:cbarreto@adobe.com
>>>+1.408.536.4496p
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>
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