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Subject: Re: [wsbpel] Issue 82.2 Proposal
--Apple-Mail-4-927086887 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi Satish, Thank you for your questions and positive comments. Actually, the issue of compensation handlers was an open question to the group and we appreciate your reminder. > Should adding of compensationHandler declaration at a scope without > explicit opacity be allowed? What role(s) are responsible to define > or describe a high level compensation flow? On the requirement for start activities in the template, start activities are important to understanding a process - abstract or executable - so as to require that they be exposed at the abstract level. Allowing the addition of start activities without explicit opacity to, for example, a process which already has a start activity is similar to the case where start activities are added to a process that didn't initially have any. I agree that the initial message data is essential for developers rather than exposed to a business analyst. However, any role involved in the initial, abstract design of a process should definitely know how a process is initiated at least at a high level. In some cases, explicit opaque activities may be used as placeholders for start activities (to be defined later). Finally, one other question has also been raised: > A potential goal may be to make it possible to determine the end of > the process. Take the case, where a fault handler may be added > without explicit opacity. In other than the normal completion case, > a process end may not be depicted in the abstract process based on > a process template profile. Is this an acceptable constraint? It would be good to hear more on your thoughts on this. Cheers, -Charlton. On 20/09/2005, at 20:50, Satish Thatte wrote: > Short and sweet :-) A couple of questions: > > Why the requirement that all start activities must be present in > the template? Is it about the data that comes in with the initial > message being essential? > > Why are compensation handlers not allowed to be added to scope > declarations? > > Satish > > ________________________________ > > From: Charlton Barreto [mailto:cbarreto@adobe.com] > Sent: Sun 9/11/2005 10:11 PM > To: ws bpel tc > Cc: Alex Yiu; Charlton Barreto; Martin Chapman; Monica J Martin; > Nickolas Kavantzas; Ron Ten-Hove > Subject: [wsbpel] Issue 82.2 Proposal > > > > Attached is a proposal for Issue 82.2 - another abstract profile > for a process template - which was developed by the subgroup which > expressed interest in this back in June (including Adobe, Oracle > and Sun). > > Charlton Barreto > P +1.415.692.5396 > cbarreto@adobe.com > charlton_b@mac.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Apple-Mail-4-927086887 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s 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