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Subject: RES: [wsbpel] new issue: do we want to remove normative wordings in chapter 16 "Security Consideration"?


Pursuant to this, I would propose the following:
 
1) Change "RECOMMENDED" in the first sentence of Chapter 16 to "recommended"
2) Reword the third sentence of Chapter 16 to read, "When using WS-Security, signatures may include semantically significant headers and the message body, as well as any other relevant data, so that they cannot be independently separated and reused."
3) Change the second sentence of the second paragraph to read, "Messages may include a message timestamp. such as that described in WS-Security, within the signature."
 
-Charlton.

________________________________

De: Dieter Koenig1 [mailto:dieterkoenig@de.ibm.com]
Enviada: qui 1/6/2006 01:24
Para: Alex Yiu
Cc: Alex Yiu; Diane Jordan; Peter Furniss; wsbpeltc
Assunto: Re: [wsbpel] new issue: do we want to remove normative wordings in chapter 16 "Security Consideration"?



For business processes, it is strongly recommended to secure their partner
interactions.

Other than that, security considerations in general and WS-Security in
particular are orthogonal and out of scope of the WS-BPEL specification, so
there cannot be a MUST statement.

Kind Regards
DK
                                                                                                                        
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             Alex Yiu                                                     
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                                       Diane Jordan <drj@us.ibm.com>,     
             31.05.2006 18:06          Peter Furniss                      
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                                       <wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org>, Alex
                                       Yiu <alex.yiu@oracle.com>          
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                                       [wsbpel] new issue: do we want to  
                                       remove normative wordings in       
                                       chapter 16 "Security               
                                       Consideration"?                    
                                                                          
                                                                          
                                                                          
                                                                          
                                                                          
                                                                          





New issue: do we want to remove normative wordings in chapter 16
"Security Consideration"?
-----------------------------------
There are 3 occurrences of RFC normative wordings in conjunction with
WS-Security in chapter 16 "Security Consideration".  e.g. "RECOMMENDED"
and "SHOULD".

Do we want to remove those normative wordings?

This decision would have implication to how and whether WS-Security is
added in references section.

Submitter Proposal:
I tend to think those wordings and references to WS-Security should be
non-normative. Because, WS-Security usage is orthogonal and optional to
the main concern of WS-BPEL.
-----------------------------------


Thanks!


Regards,
Alex Yiu


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