Re: [wsdm] Groups - 2004-05-27 WSDM TC Conference Call Notes.doc uploaded

[Tom Maguire <tmaguire@us.ibm.com>]

John,


John DeCarlo <jdecarlo@mitre.org> wrote on 06/03/2004 04:03:14 PM:

> Tom,
>
> Thanks for the clarification.
>
> 1.  If I understand correctly, there are multiple reasons to have more
> than one WSDL:endpoint for manageability of one resource.
>
> 1.A. One reason is that there are different bindings that would result
> in different WSDL:endpoints (such as HTTP, HTTPS, JMX).

+1 these are considered alternative equivalent bindings.

> However, in this case, you would still have one EPR, because that EPR
> can have multiple WSDL:endpoints.

+1

> 1.B.  Another reason would be that you have one Manageability Provider
> (MP) provide one WSDL:endpoint and provide monitoring capabilities.  You
> might have one MP with a different WSDL:endpoint which provides some
> control capabilities.  Etc.
>
> In that case, the distinction is a different set of functionalities, and
> the two MPs might not know about each other.

In this case the bindings are not equivalent.  In WSDL they should be
different
service elements and the same is true for EPRs they should be different
EPRs.

> But if the MPs do know about each other, could they both use the same
> EPR to refer to the same physical resource?

-1 no I do not think so.

> Thanks.
>
> Tom Maguire wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > John,
> > In the notes you have the following statement:
> >
> > ·     Need to be clear about how you relate EPRs to Manageable
Resources –
> > because you can have two different Manageability Endpoints for the same
> > physical resource.  Note that you might have three WSDL:Endpoints for
the
> > same Manageable Resource, one with HTTP, one with HTTPS, one with JMX.
> >
> > An EPR does not necessarily have a 1-1 coorespondence with a bound WSDL
> > endpoint.  An EPR is much more like a service element in that it can
have
> > multiple "ports" or addresses.
> >
> >
> > jdecarlo@mitre.org wrote on 06/03/2004 02:18:19 PM:
> >
> >
> >>The document 2004-05-27 WSDM TC Conference Call Notes.doc has been
> >>submitted by John DeCarlo (jdecarlo@mitre.org) to the OASIS Web
> >>Services Distributed Management TC document repository.
> >>
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