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Subject: RE: [wsdm] MUWS: New issue to consider?


Title: Re: [wsdm] MUWS: New issue to consider?
I would be fine with saying that an EPR is constructed by the "provider" which is close to the implementation and therefore knows where to put what. For example, if I'm a provider and I use say Axis and I don't want to mess around with reference properties and I have only one resource to worry about, then I will *advertize* an EPR which has just <wsa:Address> in it. Now, if I'm a .NET with WSE provider then I may be able to get the WSA dispatch for free and therefore I could advertize an EPR which includes <wsa:Address> and <wsa:ReferenceProperties> in it. So the choice is at the "provider".
 
The client needs to only know of WSA and how to deal with it in either case. It does not need to know why the provider did it one way or the other.
 
What is it that we can say here except "use WSA"?
What we can do though is to say use only wsa:Address and wsa:ReferenceProperties for resource disambiguation.
-----Original Message-----
From: fred carter [mailto:fred.carter@amberpoint.com]
Sent: Tue 11/16/2004 8:45 PM
To: Sedukhin, Igor S
Cc: wsdm@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [wsdm] MUWS: New issue to consider?

Sedukhin, Igor S wrote:

>Didn't we say in WSRF that you may use any of the embodiments you like
>
Well, insofar as I know, we did say that in WSRF.  However, WSDM has not
yet updated to the not-yet-released WSRF spec, so I think we (meaning
WSDM) are (is) still restricted to WS-Addressing (if that's what you're
asking).

That said, I guess my question was do we/should we (for, say,
interoperability) define how our EPR is constructed.  Or do we just rely
on the appropriate magic for obtaining one.  I know that's probably what
we say -- I'm just not terribly comfortable with it.

>
>
>-- Igor Sedukhin .. (igor.sedukhin@ca.com)
>-- (631) 342-4325 .. 1 CA Plaza, Islandia, NY 11749
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: fred carter [mailto:fred.carter@amberpoint.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 4:23 PM
>To: wsdm@lists.oasis-open.org
>Subject: [wsdm] MUWS: New issue to consider?
>
>In reading the WS-Management spec the other day, one thing that sticks
>out as contextually different is that they describe a normative [I
>think] mapping to WS-Addressing.  That is, they make specific reference
>to where the analogous concept to identity fits into the WS-Address.
>
>Do we need to map this?  That is, to describe how to identify the
>resource in question in our WS-Address?  I think that this is currently
>missing, and I don't recall seeing it specifically addressed in WSRF
>(and it couldn't be, since they don't have an identity capability...).
>
>Seems like we could say that there must exist a ref prop that's the same
>as the property in the property sheet in the WS-A. This leaves open
>discovery, but that's a separate problem...
>
>Opinions?
>
>/fred

>





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