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Subject: WSFED TC Meeting minutes for November 11, 2008

From: Mike Kaiser <mkaiser@us.ibm.com>
To: wsfed@lists.oasis-open.org
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:27:23 -0500

WSFED TC Meeting minutes for November 11, 2008
We are grateful to Nortel for sponsoring this call.

Summary of new Action Items:
No new Action Items
1. Call to order
- Verify Minute Taker Mike Kaiser to take minutes.

   - Roll Call
- Status change (as of end of meeting):

- Lost voting status
None
- Gained voting status
Larry Rogers;Lockheed Martin

- Attendance
   Doug Davis;IBM
Mike Kaiser;IBM
Michael McIntosh;IBM
Anthony Nadalin;IBM
Geoff Bullen;Microsoft Corporation
Greg Carpenter;Microsoft Corporation
Marc Goodner;Microsoft Corporation
Don Schmidt;Microsoft Corporation
Abbie Barbir;Nortel
Lloyd Burch;Novell*
Doug Earl;Novell*
Don Adams;TIBCO Software Inc.
Kent Spaulding;Tripod Technology Group, Inc.
Larry Rogers;Lockheed Martin

- Online Chat Room Reminder
The meeting will have access to an online chat room at: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/wsfed

2. Reading/Approving minutes from October 28, 2008 [1] - Approved unanimously.
3. TC Logistics - Reminder:
   The TC meets every two weeks. The next scheduled meeting is now Tuesday, November 25th, 2008.
Question: Since this is the week of US Thanksgiving should we
cancel? Consensus was to cancel the 11/25/2008 meeting due
to travel and holiday conflicts. The next scheduled
meeting will be in one month. (i.e. Tuesday,
December 9th)
4. Issues list [2]
- Actions
- Marc Goodner to write a draft response for PR0002 and circulate. Proposed response posted [3A] See general discussion text
below for responses.
-Don Schmidt to create and distribute a draft response for PR0002 See general discussion text below for responses.

- Mike McIntosh to create and distribute a draft response for
PR0003.

Done see reference [4]. See general discussion text below
for responses.

Comment rules from OASIS were posted to the chat room for discussion.
(Copied here) "Comments from non-TC Members must be collected via
the TCs archived public comment facility; comments made through
any other means shall not be accepted. The TC must acknowledge
the receipt of each comment, track the comments received, and
publish to its primary e-mail list the disposition of each
comment at the end of the review period."

Based on this there is consensus amongst the team that the minutes,
e-mail archive postings, etc... satisfy this requirement for response.
Therefore all three of these Actions should now be considered closed.
- Issues i015 - Non-standardized Normative References
http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsfed/issues/Issues.xml#i015
WS-MEX and WS-RT are now both publically available W3C Member Submissions. WSFED Spec references to these
should be updated accordingly.

Applied in working draft. Should be complete and posted today.

ACTION: Status Pending. Will change to Review draft with
these reference updates is posted later today
(November 11th, 2008).

Note though not explicitly stated in the meeting, here
are the publically referenced URL's for these two
W3C Member Submissions.

http://www.w3.org/Submission/2008/SUBM-WS-MetadataExchange-20080813/
http://www.w3.org/Submission/2008/SUBM-WSRT-20080812/

PR0001: Revise federation metadata document structure to eliminate
ambiguities and improve interoperability[7]

Did not apply the edit exactly as proposed. In the proposal
there were singular forms that already existed in plural.
Changes reused these pre-existing constructs. The schema
upload matches the document 08. The Schema examples still
need to be converted to exemplars in the document.

The changes reflected in the current revised draft editions
[5] and [6] should be looked at closely

STATUS: Update status to Review. This status change was
overlooked previously. (See minutes from 10/14).


PR0003: Should WS-Federation references to XML DSig be
updatedto Edition 2? [9]
   Changes being cut into specification draft by editor. Version
with updates should be posted later today (Nov 11th, 2008).

STATUS: Change to Review when posted.

Issue i027 - Need capability for services to describe requestedclaim types
Proposal approved unanimously. Changes being cut into
specification to be posted later today. (Nov. 11th, 2008)

STATUS: Change to review when posted.

NEW ISSUES:
None raised at today's meeting.

6. Other business
   We need to have another public review cycle due to substantive changes.
Discussion around whether or not we should initiate an electronic
CD and PR ballot prior to the next meeting.

The concern was raised that if we start another PR immediately, we might
be put in a situation where we find another small comment or two during
PR requiring another cycle. In the end, consensus was that we should
allow everyone the next four weeks until the next meeting to really take
a good hard look at the specification with all the changes. Everyone
should push to post any comments with proposed solutions as soon as
possible.

Marc will push to get all the updates posted by today (Nov 11th, 2008)
to maximize everyone's time for review. The plan is that at the
next scheduled meeting (Tues. December 9th, 2008) everyone should be
ready to vote on Committee Draft and Public Review Approval. 7. Roll Call Additions One addition to roll.
8. Adjournment Meeting adjourned.

[1] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wsfed/200810/msg00011.html[2]http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsfed/issues/Issues.xml
[3] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wsfed/200811/msg00001.html
[4] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wsfed/200810/msg00010.html[5]http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/29643/ws-federation-1.2-spec-ed-08.doc[6]http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/29644/ws-federation.xsd
[7] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wsfed/200808/msg00001.html
[8] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wsfed-comment/200807/msg00000.html
[9] http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsfed/email/archives/200809/msg00004.html