RE: [wsrf] ISSUE: Should resource lifetime require WS-Resource.

[Steve Graham <sggraham@us.ibm.com>]

Hi Igor:
Your wording suggestion that the WS-Resource
is destroyed is probably right, but that is a separate discussion (related
to the action item authors took to update terminology in the specs per
the WS-Resource spec).  

I was quoting the current version of
the spec to not "confuse" the WS-Resource rewording discussion
from the topic at hand. My question was concerning what should be stated
when there is no WS-Resource model assumed?  ie what exactly is destroyed
in that case? 

sgg

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"Sedukhin, Igor S" <Igor.Sedukhin@ca.com>

11/01/2004 12:28 PM

To	Steve Graham/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, <meder@mcs.anl.gov>
cc	"wsrf-oasis" <wsrf@lists.oasis-open.org>
Subject	RE: [wsrf] ISSUE: Should resource lifetime require WS-Resource.

The WS-Resource is destroyed.
That is, don't send nothing to its EPR no more -- there is nobody there.
I think that this is more obvious semantics than destruction of a "stateful
resource component of the WS-Resource" which, by the way, has never
been normatively defined anywhere else.

-- Igor Sedukhin .. (igor.sedukhin@ca.com)
-- (631) 342-4325 .. 1 CA Plaza, Islandia, NY 11749

 

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From: Steve Graham [mailto:sggraham@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 8:37 AM
To: meder@mcs.anl.gov
Cc: wsrf-oasis
Subject: Re: [wsrf] ISSUE: Should resource lifetime require WS-Resource.


Sam: 
This is a good question. 

Now, what is the semantic of Destroy() if no WS-Resource is assumed.  Currently,
the text from WSRF-RL version 1.2 draft 03 reads: 

224 If the WS-Resource accepts the Destroy request message, upon receipt
of this message the WS- 
225 Resource MUST either (1) destroy the implied stateful resource component
of the WS-Resource 
226 and return the following DestroyResponse message to acknowledge successful
destruction, or 
227 (2) return a fault message indicating failure. Note that the destruction
of the stateful resource 
228 component of the WS-Resource effectively destroys the WS-Resource.

So, if we allow the case where the Destroy is sent to something other than
a WS-Resource, what is the semantic?  Ie what can the requestor imagine
is destroyed in successful response to the request?

sgg
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Samuel Meder <meder@mcs.anl.gov>

10/29/2004 09:41 PM

Please respond to
meder

To	wsrf-oasis <wsrf@lists.oasis-open.org>
cc
Subject	[wsrf] ISSUE: Should resource lifetime require WS-Resource.

Specifically should the destroy operation require that the Web Service
implementing it is also a WS-Resource.

/Sam