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Subject: RE: [wsrf] Proposed resolution to WSRF 174 - references to instances ofMDDs
Having <targetNamespace> as a child element of MetadataDescriptor is taking this too far. The resolution to this issue needs to state that the xmlns for a <MetadataDescriptor> in a MDD needs to be preserved in any derived metadata resource RPDoc; both should use XML namespaces in the normal way. If any WS-Resource requester needs to determine the xmlns of the root element of an RPDoc then it should use GetResourcePropertyDocument. Assuming this assertion is accepted, then there is one primary difference between the options 'b' and 'f' - 'f' restricts a MDD to a single MetadataDescriptor element and eliminates the <name> child element (previously attribute) from <MetadataDescriptor>. Bryan - you asked: > what is the advantage of restricting a Definitions element to a single MDD? The advantage is that we have not a single scenario where it makes sense to have more than one (that I am aware of). The "flexibility" of multiple MetadataDescriptor elements which have to be qualified by name seems an unnecessary complication. Please correct me if this is wrong. But if not, I tend towards option 'f' for simplicity. Regards, Ian Robinson STSM, WebSphere Messaging and Transactions Architect IBM Hursley Lab, UK ian_robinson@uk.ibm.com "Murray, Bryan P." <bryan.murray@hp. To com> Tim Banks/UK/IBM@IBMGB cc 25/04/2006 22:43 <wsrf@lists.oasis-open.org>, "David Snelling" <David.Snelling@UK.Fujitsu.com>, "Wilson, Kirk D" <Kirk.Wilson@ca.com>, Ian Robinson/UK/IBM@IBMGB Subject RE: [wsrf] Proposed resolution to WSRF 174 - references to instances of MDDs Tim, This whole discussion began when Dave brought up his use case for "dynamic" metadata due to the existance of resources having new properties created at runtime. Thus, we allowed the metadata property to reference a live resource instead of a static document. This does not mean the metadata property is required nor that the metadata document no longer exists. My understanding is that the document must exist in order to support design time use of metadata. I believe you are right that the targetNamespace property should be added to the metadata resource to allow a client of that metadata resource to learn which namespace it is associated with. This namespace should certainly be the same as the namespace used in the metadata doc, but it has nothing to do with a WSDL portType and a reference to the metadata doc. The WSDL portType refers to the metadata doc (it is just a URL and QName), not the metadata resource (which requires an EPR as a reference). At runtime, the metadata property refers to the metadata resource, not the metadata doc. The metadata resource is just like any other resource. It happens to have a root element named rmd:MetadataDescriptor and a bunch of properties that describe the metadata of another resource. But there is no XML magic for referencing this resource - it uses an EPR just like any other resource. This EPR can use any value for the wsa:Address and wsa:ReferenceParameters fields that is reasonable for its deployment. Bryan -----Original Message----- From: Tim Banks [mailto:tim_banks@uk.ibm.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 2:48 AM To: Murray, Bryan P. Cc: wsrf@lists.oasis-open.org; David Snelling; Wilson, Kirk D; Ian Robinson Subject: RE: [wsrf] Proposed resolution to WSRF 174 - references to instances of MDDs Hi Bryan, As described by Ian in [1]... > (b) requires the schema of the MetadataDescriptor element to be changed. > In psuedo schema terms, this would be a change from this: > <MetadataDescriptor > name="xsd:NCName" > interface="xsd:QName" > wsdlLocation="pairs of xsd:anyUri"? > {anyAttribute}* > > > <documentation />? > <Property /> * > {any}* > </MetadataDescriptor> > > to this: > > <MetadataDescriptor> > <name>xsd:NCName</name> > <interface>xsd:QName</interface> > <wsdlLocation>pairs of xsd:anyUri</wsdlLocation>? > <documentation />? > <Property /> * > {any}* > </MetadataDescriptor> > But... (b) also requires the declaration of the targetNamespace for the Metadata descriptor, without which it cannot be referenced (from a portType) via a Qname. So, is this targetNamespace information also to be provided as a child element, like this? <MetadataDescriptor> >>> <targetNamespace>xsd:anyUri</targetNamespace> <name>xsd:NCName</name> <interface>xsd:QName</interface> <wsdlLocation>pairs of xsd:anyUri</wsdlLocation>? <documentation />? <Property /> * {any}* </MetadataDescriptor> I worry that this is getting into the realms of extreme-XML, and can find no precedent for this kind of construction; can you help me? Regards, Tim Banks. [1] http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsrf/email/archives/200604/ msg00051.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- "Murray, Bryan P." <bryan.murray@hp.com> wrote on 24/04/2006 21:55:16: > If MetadataDescriptor is the root of the resource properties document, > what is the advantage of restricting a Definitions element to a single > MDD? > > I like (b) the best. > > Bryan >
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