Re: [wsrm] Ack message and Fault message

[Sunil Kunisetty <sunil.kunisetty@oracle.com>]

 Hi Iwasa,

iwasa wrote:

> Hi Sunil,
>
> OK. It is the same with the original version of the spec(WS-R 1.0),
> if we require MessageHeader element for Ack and Fault
> message also.
>
> But I thought we do not require the MessageHeader
> for Ack or Fault anymore. The reason I thought that were:
>
> 1. Any of MessageHeader element don't have to be
>     in Ack or Fault, since we do not have
>     any of "from" and "to" for sender and receiver,
>     and timestamp in the current spec.
>

 We need to have the MessageHeader for every RM {request|ack|fault}
 message as we need an unique ID to identify the msg. Also we need the
 ExpiryTime to manage the message persistence.

>
> 2. ReplyPattern must not be in Ack or Fault,
>     but it is Mandatory element in the current spec.
>

 Yes, it is mandatory. See REL-99. The pattern value for
 Response (Ack or Fault) is the same as the Request.
 This is an  indication to the original Sender in which
 pattern it received the ack or fault.

>
> But I don't propose this change if TC consensus
> is requiring the MessageHeader for Ack and Fault.
>

 I think we definitely need it.

>
> Thanks,
>
> Iwasa
>
> >
> >  Iwasa,
> >
> > iwasa wrote:
> >
> > > Additional information.
> > >
> > > Currently section 3.1 states:
> > > "The MessageHeader element MUST be present for Reliable Message,
> PollRequest
> > > message, Acknowledgment message, or Fault message. The MessageHeader
> element
> > > includes basic information to be used for a reliable message. This
> element
> > > includes the following attributes and child elements:"
> >
> >  The above sentence is indeed correct. We ALWAYS need MessageHeader for
> >  every RM message be it a Request, Ack. Response or a Fault message.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > So Ack and Fault message MUST include
> > > MessageHeader element, according to the current spec.
> > > Is that what we want? I think we should remove
> >
> >  Yes, that's what we want. Why do you felt that this have to be removed?
> >
> > >
> > > "Acknowledgment message" and "Fault message"
> > > from this sentence.
> > >
> >
> >  -Sunil
> >
>
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