Re: [wsrm] Groups - WS-Reliability-2004-02-26.pdf uploaded

[Sunil Kunisetty <Sunil.Kunisetty@oracle.com>]

 

 Iwasa,

 Here are some technical comments (need discussion):

1. pg 13/Line420, Why are RetryMaxTimes and RetryMaxInterval MUST for GD. Shouldn't it be MAY?
2. pg 6/Line 177: Currently,  when using Poll pattern, replyTo attribute is not needed. However, we have an open issue. So don't change this until we decide one way or other.
3. pg 16/line 493:I don't think we should say that retries are MUST especially when we have Poll mechanism now. Sender can alternatively Poll the message
4. pg 25/line 751: Shouldn't the MUST be changed to SHOULD in this case just as in line 743

 Here are some editorial comments:

1. pg 4/line 74: SOAP 1.1 should be a non normative reference as it is not a specification rather just as W3C Note. Btw SOAP12 should be normative.
2. pg 5/line 142:I believe we are not defining any extensions to SOAP Body. Also, we are not defining extensions to SOAP Header element per say, rather defining SOAP Headers needed for the protocol
3. pg 6/line 152. We may need a normative reference to WS-I BP and non normative reference to WSDL 1.1
4. pg 6/Line 177: Change the replyTo to some what meaningful URI, say http://wsr-example.org/mylistener or something similar
5. pg 12/line394: Shouldn't s3 say "A single message, standalone (singleton) or within a group of several message (non singleton group)".
6. pg 12/line 397: Didn't fully understand the last sentence (Such scopes are "required" scopes that must be supported). Good to clarify this.
7. General comment: we need to correlate the agreement items with elements in our protocol, i.e., for ex., we need to say that the agreement item GuaranteedDelivery is supported when the <AckRequested> element exists. If we don't say this, then there will be a 'gap', although some of them may sound implicit.
8. pg 14/lines 437-441: I'm bit cautious about the 2nd paragraph of Messaging Context... At this time, I don't have specific comments, but I'll revisit this.
9. pg 19/line 571 etc.. We use the prefix RM often, but doesn't explain clearly what RM is defined too.
10. pg 19/line 584: Doesn't the outside box (the one referred by Response) should be bold (i.e.  required)
11. pg 20/line 600: For Poll request, child name under PollRequest should be RefToMessageIds and not MessageId
12. General comment: Remove the Fault row from element descriptions
13. pg 22/line 654:Response pattern should not have replyTo attribute
14. pg 26/line 791: The type of replyTo should be URI and not URL
15. pg 26/line 797: The type of replyTo should be URI and not URL ( we could say that it could be URL in Http case).
16. pg 26/line 804: Change MUST send an Acknowledgment message to "MUST send an RM-Reply" (as it could result in a fault too)
17. General comment: mustUnderstand attribute in element tables should have the type (boolean) in the parenthesis just as other attributes
18. pg 30/table 12: replyPattern should have the type in parenthesis
19. pg 31/line 939: we no longer have the Response as default for this attribute. so remove that line.
20. pg 33/section 4.4.2.1/line 972 should be titled ReplyRange and not ReplyPattern
21. pg 33/table 15: fault should have the type (QName) in parenthesis
22. pg 34/line 1008: "Thus a ReliableMessagingFault could come in" should be changed to "Thus a response may have a"
23. pg 36: We need to remove the lines 1039,1040,1041
24. pg 37: we need to remove the lines  1049, 1050, 1051

 -Sunil

 ps: comments for chapter 5-6 are in-progress

kiwasa@jp.fujitsu.com wrote:

The document revision WS-Reliability-2004-02-26.pdf has been submitted by Kazunori Iwasa (kiwasa@jp.fujitsu.com) to the OASIS Web Services Reliable Messaging TC document repository.
This document is revision #31 of WS-Reliability-2003-09-05b.pdf.

Document Description:
February26,2004(WD0.98)
This was updated with minutes at:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsrm/download.php/5630/MinutesWSRMTC021704.htm  and
http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/wsrm/200402/msg00223.html
Rel102: Remove Section2.7
Rel108/115: Remove section 3.5
            Updates on Section 3.4
            Updates on Section 4
Rel113: Section 2.4
        Section 2.8.1
New issue: removing MessageHeader
           throughout the spec
Editorial reshuffle with:
http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/wsrm/200402/msg00161.html
Appendix A: Schema
Appendix B: Acknowledgments
And minor editorial updates

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February12,2004(WD0.94)
This was updated for:
Section2.8: Section number correction
Section3.1.1 and 3.1.2: MessageId text
http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/wsrm/200402/msg00038.html
http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/wsrm/200402/msg00068.html
Rel108: Section1.7 and 3.3: Clarified that PollRequest can be used for any RM-Reply pattern, and a reply to PollRequest only includes successfully delivered messages.
Section4: Example11 is added. Numbering of examples are corrected sequentially.
Section2: Some editorial comments at:
http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/wsrm/200402/msg00080.html
Rel76: Section 3.3: Agreed text was added.
Appendix B: Acknowledgments for Ver1.0 was added.
And some other editorial updates.

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February10,2004(WD0.93)
This was updated for:
Section1: Editorial updates.

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February09,2004(WD0.92)
This was updated for:
AI10: Rel22: Remaining updates are done
AI20: Section3.5: Added “SOAP1.2 can't use Fault element.”
Section3.4.1.1: from and to attribute are included here.
Section1.8: Definition of PollRequest was added.
Section5: Examples are added.
And editorial updates.

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February02,2004(WD0.91)
Updated for remaining action items at:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsrm/download.php/5089/Minutes-Jan04f2f.htm
or
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsrm/download.php/5090/Action%20Item%20List%20from%20Jan%20Face%20To%20Face%20Meeting.htm
This includes :
AI10.Done. Throughout the spec.
AI16. Done. Section 1.5.
AI20. Done. Section 3.5 is added.
AI22. Done. Section1.5.
AI24. Done. Section 3
AI28. (Still working)
AI8, 9 and 25. Done. Section 2.9.
AI4 & 19. Done. Section 2.10 is added.
Schema was replaced with ws-reliability-2004-01-27.xsd.
Table numbers were maintained sequentially.
And other editorial updating.

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January26,2004(WD0.90):
This was updated for action items at:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsrm/download.php/5089/Minutes-Jan04f2f.htm
This includes :
1) 2.4: Message Identifier -> MessageId
Sequence Number -> SequenceNum
Included “Next processing layer”
2) 2.11: Chart is updated (Now2.9)
3) 3.1.1and 3.1.2: two group attributes were moved from MessageId to SequenceNum
4) 3.1.4 Response : Some sentences are added to restrict sending back previous Acknowledgment message in the other Response.
5) 3.3, 3.3.1 and 3.4.1: MessageId -> RefToMessageIds value -> groupId
6) Section4: Replaced with new text
7) Appendix A:Replaced with new schema
Other changes includes:
Cover page: location of the spec and errata were added.
Section 1 and 2: Editorial review
1.9:New section was added (RM agreement)
1.6: Description for WS-I BP1.0 was included.
6.2: Added non-normative Reference for SOAP messages with Attachments

The following resolutions were not yet incorporated:
1.Consistency of word: e.g. sender RMP, sending RMP or sender's RMP
2.Removing MAY, Optional
3.NotSupportedFeaturesFault
4.Explanatin for cardinality and others
5.SOAP1.2 statement in the new section in 3 on rm:fault element
6.Update fault in section3
7.Examples

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Januray16,2004(WD0.88):
This was updated for:
1) Prelim minutes for Thursday on 1/15/2004 at:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsrm/email/archives/200401/msg00053.html
2) Remaining items including:
Rel36: Message ID -> Message Identifier
Rel37: Reference for RFC2392
Changed element names and location
(Eg. GroupId -> MessageId)
And others.

The following items are still in progress:
Rel22: usage for MUST, MAY, Should, Optional
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January15,2004(WD0.87):
This was Updated for:
Prelim Wed minutes on 1/14/2004 at:
http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/wsrm/200401/msg00038.html.
It includes:
Rel33: New definitions in 1.8(deliver, submit, notify)
Rel37: editorial change in 3.1.1
Rel40: editorial change in 3.1.3
Rel44: updates for 3.1.1
Rel51: change definition for Message Acknowledgment
Rel52: Moved some of 3.1.1(line546-571) to 2.5.1
Rel98: removed informative notes in 2.4
Tables: Changed “Required” to “Cardinality” (Yes-1, No-0)
The following resolutions are not updated yet:
Rel 83-86 and 56:
Change of element names and location(Eg. GroupId -> MessageId)
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January14,2004(WD0.86):
This was updated for comments at :
http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/wsrm/200401/msg00010.html
except for:
- More faults for Tables1
(Need to list up all faults)
- Section2.4 Line#259 in Spec20040106(Ver0.85): It should read "after the message has been processed and delivered to the "next processing layer".
(Need to confirm with TC for this change, since the current text was approved one.)
- Figure1,2,and3 “New processor Entity”
(Want to confirm with TC member)
-New terminologies for “Group Termination”, “Removal”, “Complete”, and others.
(Needs definitions)

And other editorial updates are also done.
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January6,2004(WD0.85):
Section2.4, Section2.5, and Section
3.1.1 are updated to incorporate
resolutions for Rel-52, Rel-57, and Rel-
82.
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WD0.84:This was updated for:
Rel-33:Section 1.8: Update on Message Delivery and Acknowledgment Message,
Rel-50:Section 3.1.3 ExpiryTime, and
Editorial updates
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WD0.83:This was updated for:
Section2.6: Added description of Figure3
Section3: Added tables for each element
Rel-31: Section2.5
Rel-38: Timestamp was removed from Section 3
Rel-100: Added Section2.9 Attachments
Rel-32: Added definitions to Section1.8
Rel-94: Figure5 and Section 3.3
(Needs additional descriptions and examples in Section3.3)
Editorial updates, especially for :
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wsrm/200310/msg00054.html
All editorial comments above are updated except one, which is a comment for line 357, to keep consistency with other sections.
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WD0.70:This was updated for
Section 2 : Messaging Models
Section 3 : Message Format,and others
Section 5 : HTTP Binding
Editorial updates
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WD0.54:This was updated for
Issue Rel-38 : Section 3.1.3 Timestamp
Issue Rel-98 : Section 3.1.2 and 3.2.3
Issue Rel-40 : Section 3.1.4
Issue Rel-88 : Section 3.1.1
Issue Rel-16 : Section 3.2.1 to 3.2.3
Issue Rel-14 : Appendix C
Editorial update
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WD0.52:This was updated with resolution from Prelim minutes for 4/Sep/2003 at:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsrm/email/archives/200309/msg00010.html

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