Prelim minutes WSRM TC Conference Call –Feb 21, 2006

The meeting of the WSRM  TC took  place by teleconference

Time Tuesday, 21 Feb 2006, 05:30pm to 06:30pm ET

1 Draft Agenda:

1) review agenda

2) Roll Call

3) Minutes approval

4) Action Items

5) Discussion of potential TC future activities

5.1 Reliability of Response

5.2 Delivery Assertions for Sequences

6) New Business

2 Roll Call

Attendance:

First Name	Last Name	Role	Company
Anish	Karmarkar	Voting Member	Oracle Corporation*
jeff	mischkinsky	Voting Member	Oracle Corporation*
Paul	Knight	Voting Member	Nortel Networks Limited*
Robert	Freund	Voting Member	Hitachi, Ltd.*
Eisaku	Nishiyama	Voting Member	Hitachi, Ltd.*
Nobuyuki	Yamamoto	Voting Member	Hitachi, Ltd.*
Jacques	Durand	Secretary	Fujitsu Limited*
Kazunori	Iwasa	Secretary	Fujitsu Limited*
Tom	Rutt	Chair	Fujitsu Limited*

Meeting is quorate

3 Minutes Discussion

Tom Rutt Volunteered to take minutes.

3.1 Approval of previous meeting minutes

The minutes of the 1/24 teleconference meeting are posted at:

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsrm/download.php/16567/Minutes-wsrmTC012406.htm

Bob moved to approve the 1/24 minutes, Jacques seconded.

No opposition minutes 1/24 minutes are approved

4 Status of Action Items

4.1 Action 012505-1 (Tom Rutt) Closed

OASIS Staff has posted the errata cd as:

http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsrm/ws-reliability/v1.1/wsrm-ws_reliability-v1.1-errata-cd1.0.pdf

The posted standard the errata index is referenced as as:

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/wsrm/documents/errata/1.1/index.html.

The errata Index now exists.

The action is closed.

1 Discussion of Potential Future TC activites

The working list of potential enhancements to WS-Reliability was posted after the last f2f as:

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsrm/download.php/12436/wsReliabityFutureFeatures.htm

TC needs to decide among the following possibilities

work to resolve new issues raised within charter of TC,
put the tc into maintenance mode (i.e., two meetings a year awaiting usage issues),
schedule vote to disband TC

Just before the last meeting Fujitsu posted the following proposal:

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsrm/email/archives/200601/msg00014.html

Jacques gave a review of what he proposes. Fujitsu has interest in investigating how two implementations could interoperate. This might extend the charter

Within ws-reliability is the question of reliability of synchronous response. This seems to be pushed into implementation aspect. WSRX implementers have realiazed that hter is a gap. This needs to be handled. Fujitsu has users of ws-reliability in Japan, and has an interest in working on an updated to ws-reliability to handle synchronous response.

The other issue is the assertion of Delivery assurance. Do we want to have a new way to handle reliability contract. We have wsdl features and properties in our spec.

How much demand is there for requirements in this area.

A separate realization of reliability contracts could be investigated.

Tom: I would like to investigate an interworking unit from WS-reliability to WS-Reliabile messaging. It would include mappings of DA from one spec to another. I would also like our group to work on interworking units between the two protocols.

Jacques: Fujitsu would also like this to be accomplished. This might require the charter to be changed. Investigation is needed.

Action: Tom will post a contribution on interworking ws-reliablity with ws rm.

1.1 Reliable Request Response

Jacques posted the following contribution

Groups - Reliability of Request-Responses (Reliable-Req-Resp-contribution.doc) uploaded

Jacques: If we can express the contract of the response we can handle this requirement. It is a modest expansion to what is there.

Action: Jacques will clarify what he thinks we should do to provide reliability on the response.

1.2 Delivery Assertions for Sequences

Tom: we might want to explore an extension of ws-rm to pass the da negotiation from ws-reliabilty.

Jacques; users might be surprised that there is not a standard representation of DA in ws rm. We need to hear from users regarding their requirements.

Tom: how many people are using da negotiation in ws reliability.

Iwasa: in Japan users are implementing WS-reliability

Tom: how do we find out what DA levels are being used for ws-reliabiltiy

Action: Iwasa will try to find out what da levels are being use for ws reiliialbiy.

2 Future Meetings

At last meeting, TC agreed to decide on the next meeting at this meeting.

Agree to have next teleconf on April 04 2006.

Bob f moved to adjourn, Jeff M seconded.

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